This past weekend I was catching fish but my 898 and 688 would show fish ever now and then. Any ideas what to tweek?
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This past weekend I was catching fish but my 898 and 688 would show fish ever now and then. Any ideas what to tweek?
For the 2d in the 898 ...:
*Press Menu twice to get into the Main Menu System ...
*Cursor over to the Sonar tab ...
*Cursor down to "Beam Frequency" - set this to 200kHz/83kHz ...
*Cursor down in the Sonar tab to "Switchfire" - set this Max mode ...
*Exit out of the Main Menu System ...
*While viewing the 2d view - Press Menu 1 time to open the Xpress menu ...
*Cursor down to "Jigging Mode" - turn this ON ...
*Cursor up in the Xpress menu to Sensitivity - set this to an acceptable amount of clutter in the water column ...
Note: Remember to turn "Jigging Mode" off when viewing DI/SI ... And if the Sonar Xpress menu does not list "Jigging Mode", you will need to update your unit to the latest software ...
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For the 2d in the 688 ...:
*Press Menu twice to get into the Main Menu System ...
*Cursor over to the Sonar tab ...
*Cursor down to "Beam Frequency" - set this to 200kHz/83kHz (if it's not the DI model) ...
*Cursor down to "Switchfire" - set this to Max mode ...
*Exit out of the Main Menu System ...
*While viewing the 2d view - Press Menu 1 time to open the Xpress menu ...
*Cursor down to Sensitivity - set this to an acceptable amount of clutter in the water column ...
Rickie
I'll try that. Thanks
Rickie. one question, why do you need to turn jigging mode off while in DI/SI mode? I have a 798 CI HD and i have been leaving jigging mode on since I updated. Might be why I haven't picked up any fish on SI lately.
Jigging mode was a recent software update to address the HB 2d complaint of "over pixelation" (HB SI units only) ...
When HB released the 360 software (6.570) ...they also decided to make a change in the unit ping sequence to enhance imaging (DI/SI) ...
This was accomplished by having the unit transmit the SI signal more often in the ping sequence by decreasing the amount of 2d transmit pings ...
This decreased the amount of 2d info being obtained to plot into the 2d image ...
To keep the 2d image scrolling correctly (with less 2d data) the unit must copy vertical rows of pixels (double pixeling) as it is plotting the vertical rows on the 2d image ...
This causes a "blocky" look to the 2d image ... Which many 2d users did not like ...
Instead of abandoning the new ping sequence (with enhanced SI pinging) ... HB added a user selectable "Jigging Mode" which tells the transmitters to revert the ping sequence back to the ping sequence before 6.570 ...
So.....
"Jigging Mode On" is better 2d (with lessened SI pinging) ...
"Jigging Mode Off" is better SI (with lessened 2d pinging) ...
You may not see the difference in the SI image ... But you will see the difference in the 2d image ...
Rickie
Thanks Rickie, For some unknown reason I was under the impression that when you switched to SI/DI the unit automatically adjusted the ping rate back to normal. Going out tomorrow and will make sure i have it turned off while in SI or DI. Thanks again
Oh geeze, I have been doing the same thing, leaving jigging mode on all the time. I have gotten some really good side imaging screen shots even with it like that.
Like I mentioned ... You may not see the difference in SI ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Rickie
I haven't try ed ,looking at side by side snapshots,but just using my 998 out on the water.I haven't noticed any difference in si/di,with jigging mold off or on.
Nother question does the Helix 9 show fish while in ID on simulator mode. My NEW:biggrin one is not just wonderin if they do like the old ones did.
Rickie, Went out yesterday and to me the image seemed a lot better with jigging mode off in both the SI and DI modes. maybe its the lower speed of the processor or only having 455 KHz on the 798 unit that turning jigging mode off makes a noticeable difference. anyway Thanks again for the help.
Rickie, I have complained about the slow (below-setpoint) chart speed in 2D when I have 2D/360 screen up. I have "jigging mode" ON. I called HB and they said it was to minimize crosstalk, I don't understand how I would have that much from (2D) 200kHz to (360) 455kHz. But that's what the said. As soon as I turn 360 "off" chart speed is back to normal setpoint speed on the same page 2D/360. Any ideas on this? I have a 999ci HD SI running 7.650 software.
Doug
That answer doesn't make sense to me either ... 200kHz and 455kHz wouldn't crosstalk ...
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It seems I'm faintly remembering someone else posting about the Chart speed slowing down when 2d/360 is viewed ...
I'll see if I can did it up ...
Have you tried the different "Beam Select" menus (200kHz - 200kHz/83kHz) to see if the Chart speed reacted the same ...??
Rickie
My 998 will do the same thing.my onix will do it also,but it's not near as noticeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdjj71m
I like the way my units show 2d/di,while the 360 is running and my boat is moving slightly.Turn the 360 off while moving this slow.the scroll will increase and the screen on 2d and DI will be strectched,becoming hard to interpret. http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psifnd4w11.PNG http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdxsthvhp.jpg
Rickie, I think I tried 200/83 with the same result, will test again.
Kosmo, I see what you mean. One thing I noticed is you are using 800kHz on your DI. With my 999ci if I turn 800kHz "ON" it blows the 360 to white all the way till 0-1 sensitivity. HB told me I can't use 800kHz with 360 and they are aware of this issue. I thought the 360 was probably set to max of 455kHz but it must be set by what you select (455 or 800) so if I want to use 800kHz I then have to go to menu and turn it off before turning my 360 on.
I'm getting so discouraged with HB and my 999ci SI - software 7.650 issues. It has bugs and problem all over the place. I keep sending my issues to HB but have no idea when they will be working on getting them fixed. I wish they would have at least got the "now discontinued" xxx9 core units software working correctly before they moved on to the Helix. They seem to have forgot about all the loyal HB customers that still own one of the core units.
I moved most of this subject to "Side/Down Imaging" It had got to far off subject for this thread. New Thread: 2D/360 chart speed, jigging mode, 999ci SI 7.650 software
Doug
Thanks Rickie - learned a few things in there....Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc