Saw Frank Leone , a helper and a COE employee sampling on Nimrod late this afternoon. Did not find out any details what they are checking .
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Saw Frank Leone , a helper and a COE employee sampling on Nimrod late this afternoon. Did not find out any details what they are checking .
Talked to Frank again , they were starting to launch the boat. They are checking on Green Carp (L M Bass ). He also confirmed Nimrod has no Threadfin shad . He said all the years of test kills he had never turned up any .
That's interesting, is Nimrod considered a shallow lake?
Nimrod average depth about 8' but river is 20 to 40 ' deep in most of the lake . Quite a bit of shallow water at low pool 2 to 5 ' . I don't know if there ever was any Threadfins but with the flash floods the water gets flushed out and may get too cold for survival .Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie cowboy
If you shoot him an email he will prob. answer and tell you what he found. That's what I did for Bear Creek. The shad seemed to have died out in several lakes. Bear Creek doesn't have many either. The cold winter we had a few years ago got them (the biologist thinks).
If you have any type of lake association or a county agency for funding, you can probably get a permit and restock threadfins in the lake. We did that on the lake I live on in Texas about 4 years ago. Survey for the last 6 years showed no threadfins present.
They weren't very expensive and it has sure added weight & fat to the crappie here.
This is not true in Arkansas. It is illegal for the public to stock fish into state and federal waters. There is no permit available for this. The AGFC is in the process of working out how to hold, raise, and transport threadfin shad on one or more of out hatcheries. The problem is the shallow water and cold winter months here. Also, they die if you look at them funny. Hopefully we can figure something out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
D-10 is purchasing threadfin for Greers Ferry next year from Alabama to reseed the lake. Maybe the following year, we will be raising them ourselves.
Maybe you can learn what they do to raise them but bet keeping water temps up in hatchery ponds might be a problem each winter ? Ever do a study on water temps in area lakes to see if the Threadfins could even survive most normal winters ? Could you not collect Shad from Lakes like Dardanelle when they bunch up in winter ? Purchase and transportation from Alabama might be more expensive and risks of importing disease or invasive species might be greater?
Our fish pathologist requires that the shad come from a certified disease free facility. You have a greater chance of introducing some thing that you don't want if you were moving fish from one lake to another. This is my theory why yellow bass have been spread to most lakes. Guys collecting shad with cast nets bring their bait to another lake and then discard the none shad into the new lake. Rotenone samples were how we used to monitor shad. Now all we have are small shad nets and not everyone is using them yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
Thanks for the information .
Something I forgot to mention is that the hatcheries are looking into the possibility of pumping well water into ponds during the winter to increase the temperature. I don't really know the details though.