How will these be different, assuming SI/DI on the helix?
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How will these be different, assuming SI/DI on the helix?
Specs have not been released, so unless somebody has some inside knowledge - you can only speculate the will be the same or similar technology as the Core or Onix....
Before dropping a grand on electronics this info would be nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by sfw1960
I'm sure specs should be releasing soon ...Quote:
Originally Posted by blindhog
Someone will be posting them as soon as they're (confirm-ably)(is that a word?) released ...
Rickie
You got the "specs" already and don't know it. SPECulation is the best part. The books are written by tech writers that more than likely believe a crystal is a glass bowl.:cool::cool::cool:
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Originally Posted by Cane Pole
Very GOOD Tom!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
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The Helix display is definitely better. Network ability is what I am curious about. Card slots? How many glitches will have to be worked out? You looking at the very minimum of February to March to get a Helix 9. Soon won't be able to get that deal on the 1199 for 1250.
One could guess the entire line of Helix would be basically the same depending on model except of course screen size....wouldnt surprise me if the entire line is non-networkable
Not sure thats a word but you get my drift........
I saw an ad somewhere that said they would be networkable.Quote:
Originally Posted by midcarolina
Not sure I am gonna need that, but the larger screen for a reasonable price is desirable.
As said with the crazy low price deals on HB's now, If I were in the market for a HB I would buy now. I would guess the larger Helix's (Heli? LOL) would be more expensive and less of a unit.
Why would it be more expensive and a lesser unit. I don't understand the lesser part.
The Helix series is a fairly basic entry level unit that is non networkable, slower processor etc. I am guessing the price point will be around $1000.
999 is a top of the line full featured unit and on clearance now are under the $1000 mark
This is true of the Helix 5 and 7 line ...Quote:
Originally Posted by MonteSS
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The specs for the larger Helix line has not been released yet ...
So networkable, processor, screen type, etc...we can only guess at this point ...
Rickie
Somewhat INCORRECT statement Monte...Quote:
Originally Posted by MonteSS
The Helix 9-10-12 WILL have Ethernet ability.
:Doh:
Addressing the "WHY" Boa3...
I (had a 798) have a 859,899 and 999 and the keypads are rather poorly lit compared to my 998 - I fish at night often so it's important to me.
Maybe 90% + of the other folks would never notice a "problem".
The xx7 & xx8 series have well lit keypads.
The 899 was "cheapened up by supplying a compact SI XDCR and the 898's had a Hi Def XDCR.
$70 difference right there....
LEDs may be bought in bulk for maybe 10 cents, but multiply that by hundreds of thousands in thousands of units and you can realize a cost savings.
My old 787,797 & 798 had wel lit keypads - I know the keypad by heart, so I can "get by" with less lighting, or I can use external lighting.
Monte is correct about being a "basic" unit and I am pretty sure the current Helix 5 & 7 have NO back lit keypads.
The SI XDCR supplied is a compact. I upgraded the 899's XDCR to a Hi Def and it's easily worth the better images!
I've been working with these devices for about 25 years, so I kind of know the drill with answering to the competition.
Lowrance has great prices on the DI units, HB comes back with an SI machine at a very competitive price.
The ONIX & Ion will continue to be their flagship models ...
The MSRP on a 998 was $1999 - the 999 MSRP was $1499 and the Helix 9 MSRP is going to be $999.
Something has to give even if that means a slower processor, less mapping capability, a less capable XDCR, internal GPS and less accessory options.
You can see below how the left side of my xx9 units are dim compared to my 998 or previous 798.
I hope this helps you understand some of the "WHY"....
RAS
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So current price on an 999 combo is $900. I would think (not know) that this is a better unit and deal than a Helix 9.
A was going to get another, but the 1199 is super attractive if you can get one...
I think I understand how I will use the unit verses all the features offered by different models.
I am going to wait on the helix9, the larger screen is important as well as gps and SI. I will only have one unit at the center console and dont need networking the way I am currently set up to fish.
Are they set to hit the market Oct 1?
Since the Helix 9,10,12 are replacing the 999 and 1199, I would expect them to have at least the equivalent functionality and maybe more. I think they are just throwing down a challenge to others with the price cut.
Also, it has already been announced that the current Helix models will have a fix for the data box issue that has been a big issue on the 998 and 999. They may also fix this in the older series.... but who knows? The Helix 9 will almost certainly have the fix also ..... and there will be other features in the future for the Helix that the older series won't get ......Unless you need something right now, I would wait to hear more about the Helix 9,10, and 12. As swf1960 indicated, the rumors are that they will network.
We should know more real soon.
:notworthy :hesaid Thanks Bob!
BobB, I have a 998 that I have had for 5+ years (1694hrs) decided to go with the fire sale on the 999's. I guess I have not had the problem (Data Box Issue) or did not know what it was. Please explain. Thanks in Advance!
Are you talking about the data box being on the left? Not the Bottom?
998 to 999 I know my 998 would support 14 accessories, my new 999 I think is 7. But this old eyes need the brighter screen.
Yes, the data boxes on the left side of the screen take up a lot of real estate......There is a fix for this in the current Helix models.
I think Humminbird also eliminated some of the accessories in the newer software releases for the 98 series.
If the Helix 9 is the same as the other Helix, it will have an even brighter screen than the 999. The Helix 7 has a higher NIT rating.
Tx, BobB
Bob, you DO know that the xx9's have the ability to turn off all data boxes on a non-NAV screen, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
When in NAV - you're still stuck with COG and SPD though.
With more than one display, it's not an issue though.
;)
Yeah, but with the Helix fix, you can still have the data, but not loose the real estate.