Thinking I might build me some 14' spider rods this winter. Anybody build there own?
Got any tips or recommended suppliers?
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Thinking I might build me some 14' spider rods this winter. Anybody build there own?
Got any tips or recommended suppliers?
I thought about it, looked around and could not find blanks. Lot cheaper to buy quality rods.
I'm not a rod builder, but that is exactly what I would have guessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by cray
In lengths over 10', it seems like you'd have to use a switch or spey rod blank, and they're not cheap. Mudhole has switch rod blanks starting at about $160.
MHX has panfish blanks in 14' for $47.25 through Mudhole. Model PF1683ML-MHX. Other than that, you could go with a salmon or steelhead blank but the prices will go up quite a bit.
Sometimes you can't built them for what you can buy them for. That said, you cannot always buy exactly what you are looking for. The result then becomes custom as the only option.
I built a blank for Slab last fall in this same series. It is a 10 footer. Might shoot him a PM and ask him how it would be as a spider rigging rod. I don't fish that particular technique in Michigan so I have no idea of really what to look for.
I haven't built a rod in a lot of years but I have looked at the cost of materials. I wasn't impressed. Were I building a casting rod up to about 7' I would do it for the self satisfaction but for the long rods I couldn't do it. I like my rods action and length to be about the same and we're allowed lots of rods so factory rods get the nod. I also really like the St. Croix 66LF. about $100 or a few one way or the other. I strongly doubt that I could build one to compare for anything close. Were I locked in all winter I might do one to occupy my time. The windings can take a lot of time for a newbie and are a thing of beauty when done right. You can use a different thread count than anyone else and keep a record of the pattern and count. Next rod use the same pattern and count and they will all match, throughout your life. It's very satisfying to show someone your gear and see their eyes light up at the quality of the work and be able to say that you did it all. Good luck with it, you've done nice work with other things, I'm sure that this would be no different.
Thanks All for the input.
Thanks Skeetbum. My home remodel projects are coming to a close. What's left is a basement floor (tile / carpet), recondition our 50year old wood exterior doors, lay down ceramic tile in the back entrance, and then a few landscaping projects... Other than a new fire pit, the rest of the landscaping will wait until next summer.
I need about 8-9 spider rigging rods. This thanksgiving I will have a knee replaced and expect to have some serious chair time. I need a project to occupy my time while sitting on my arse this winter. Figured I might was well make some spider rigging rods. Most of the rods in 14' lengths are 3 piece, I would prefer 2 piece, if I can find raw materials.
If the rods don't pan out, I believe my back up plan is Crappie cranking lures.
In the mean time Ill check out Mudhole for the blanks wicklundhr suggested. Any other options? Any recommended videos or books on the subject?
Hanr3,
Those 14 footers I suggested are 3 piece rods. The rest of their rods in the Panfish series are two piece rods.
If you switch over to a steelhead blank, you can get 14 footers in a two piece but the price will go up dramatically.
As far as videos, I recommend going to Youtube and utilizing the video series that Captain Kevin Brotz from GetBitOutdoors put together. I think it is a 9 video series and I have recommended it to several people. Each video is between 3 and 10 minutes (with the exception of one or two). Great videos with great instructions. Kevin is a great guy and anyone interested in building rods can checkout his web site. They offer a lot of great stuff (as does Mudhole).
I'll keep my eyes out for any other blanks that would fit the bill. There are a few companies I stay away from but usually don't post them publicly because it always hurts someone's feelings!
Thanks a bunch for the help!Quote:
Originally Posted by wicklundrh
I haven't looked yet, however I suspect Steelhead rods would be a little to stiff for a crappie rod. Just a hunch. :cheers2
IF three piece is my only/best option, three piece it is.
I'll check out his video series. Thanks!
Actually, the lighter ones make great crappie rods. Heck, they make good bluegill rods. I think they'd sell a lot more if they'd take the "steelhead" out of the description. They're just long spinning rods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanr3
Interest piqued.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
Hanr3,
Honestly, the steelhead rod is actually lighter than the crappie/panfish rods. Look at the handle OD of the panfish rod and compare it to the steelhead rod.
I use my steelhead rod about 90% of the time for pushing jigs, long lining, and throwing a float for crappies. I also use it vertical fishing for perch.
The rods can be had in several actions, I recommend a light weight moderate action. This will give you a bend from the tip all the way to the handle of the rod. Because of the action of the rods (the rod does the work) you can couple them with a lot lighter line. Most of the time, I steelhead fish with 6lb test Stren Mono. It is actually overkill with this rod for Crappies.
I don't know if I would build six or 8 of them to use as spider rigging rods (only because of total cost) but I recommend everyone to have own. This is the reason I got in to rod building. Anyone can go out and purchase a good/great 7ft spinning rod for way less money than I can build one. The formula however is reversed with it comes to a steelhead rod. I can build a great rod for way less than you can go out and buy one. My personal go to is a 10 footer. Because of the long rod, I can throw a standard float set at a depth of 10ft without the need for using a slip float.
As you know however, not every rod is great for everything. I prefer a little stiffer long rod when dipping treetops.
Trust me, once you get started on the building bug, your going to build yourself a ton of different rods. Saves a bunch of money and is a whole lot of fun and enjoyment on those winter days and evenings.
They're very versatile. I use mine for tossing spinners and crankbaits for trout and soft plastics for bass. On another forum, a guy posted how great they were for throwing popping corks for redfish.Quote:
Originally Posted by wicklundrh
Ouch!
I looked at the 14' Panfish and Steelhead series. I can get two of the Panfish series blanks for the price of one Steelhead blank.
The Steelhead series offers a kit version. Is it worth buying the kit? I know you have to buy the components in the kit, is it best to buy them are part of the kit, or separate?
I'm not too worried about the cost. I have several St. Croix Premier series rods that I use for Crappie fishing. Steelhead rods are in that price range.
I had a book on some really trick custom windings, I'll see if I can dig it up. T.J.Stallings used to wind rods too, you might bump him for some options we wouldn't know about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanr3