Doing a post to show what crappie look like in side image. This is 7 foot of water and occurred 7/22/15 water temp 91-94 degrees trolling crankbaits.
Printable View
Doing a post to show what crappie look like in side image. This is 7 foot of water and occurred 7/22/15 water temp 91-94 degrees trolling crankbaits.
Nice mess of feeshies ...
Rickie
Very nice LowePro!! Those look like very nice size fish, will fish that size cast a shadow if they are off to the side?? How tight together would the school have to be to cast a shadow showing whole school? I can see fish below on my 899 but not sure of size of fish but having trouble seeing fish off to side. I'm sure most is my inexperience on reading and adjusting unit.
They do not have to be very big to cast a shadow. In fact there are shadows in the image they are just hard to see because I took this picture with my phone of my graph. A "pik of a pik" takes out alot of detail as to what was really in the image. To make the fish pop out more turn ur sharpness up. This will make the fish pop out even more but often distorts everything else in the image. So I usually have my sharpness set on low until I find something that looks like fish, and then will turn it up to see just how many fish are out to the side. Need to make sure the distance ur scanning is appropriate for the depth you are scanning to see smaller fish like crappie. (EX. I was originally scanning at 85 feet in 7 feet deep of water. I saw these fish but they didn't pop out, they just barely caught my eye. So I narrowed my distance to 60 feet in 7 foot of water and that made the crappie way more noticeable. Almost jumped out at me. Shortening the distance "magnified" what was on the screen making the crappie proportionally correct with everything else that was on the screen.
Those are a couple of slabs your holding in your profile pik Swampseed!
I will give cranking up sharpness a try. Rickie has been great help and I have cut my side distance to no more than 60 hopefully helping me see better detail. My other problem is transducer mounted to trolling motor. I have a ram mount helping raise unit up but even when I'm on trolling motor and bent over looking at screen ( and it kills my back!) My face is still few feet from screen to see detail. And then throw the sun beating down its hard for me to see good. Those are Mississippi fish and can't wait to go back!!
Man I will meet ya there!!!:biggrin
Side imaging is a little more difficult to get a good image with it on trolling motor because the trolling motor is constantly turning and distorting the image. I usually set my distance to 80-125 feet on side image until I seen something I want to get a closer look at. Then I will decrease the distance if necessary.
NIE CATCH
That's fish? I would have just thought it was trash or unit set wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowePro
This is common when learning to interpret fish echoes in the SI image (thinking that the white dots seen are on the display are not fish) ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tcounty
I always suggest setting the SI Range really short (30-40ft or even less on a smaller display) until one can effectively interpret a fish echo from a trash echo ...
Crappie make very VERY small echoes ...
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...psaz7ohxrw.png
Rickie
The thing about blue gills/verse crappie,on si is.Blue gills have that distinct hole that they are in,that si will cast a shadow over,that will make the blue gills stand out.Crappie beds aren't like that.They will have only a slight indentation and will be scattered out.Making them much harder to see on si.
Very good guys! I love it! Images help me learn as well! Keep posting crappie in side image pics! We all need to know what they look like from every angle!
Good info and nice fish. Thanks.......
Thinking maybe my problem is if I see white dot I also need to see shadow that would be cast. Longer the shadow the higher up in water column. Thinking, say 10-12" crappie unless maybe packed in a tight school I would not even be able to see a shadow???? In the pic above that Rickie posted my thinking has been white dot and shadow cast. The fish in circles I would have thought without seeing shadow they would be just rocks???
I have read to get the best image on SI use 4-5 times water depth ( 10' DOW = 40-50 SI range ) with 400kHz and 3-4 times with 800kHz. What are your thoughts?
That would give you the most symmetrical image, but not necessarily the best for seeing fish.
I agree with the 5 times the waters depth for identifying what species of fish you are looking at for sure, because everyting in the image would be proportionally correct! But just generally scanning if its deeper than 5-6 foot deep I keep it at 75 feet at least. But no more than 100 feet. This way things in the screen are indeed less detailed and visiable but still visible enough to catch my eye. Then I will hone in on it once I have found it. Scanning at 30 feet out to the side doesnt give you much more of an advantage than old school technology inmy opinion. I was doing 4-5 times my depth when I first started, and my buddy ABH explained to me the way he does it. Made since, and I get way more use out of my side imaging now!
This is what I have you can see the crappie right in the tree stumps. Shots taken on HB 999Quote:
Originally Posted by LowePro
AWESOME shot Bean! Makes me wanna do a lil jig right in that tree!
I have a question, what is that behind the stumps and on the right side? More crappie or bait fish? Thanks
More crappie they where so thick down there that the right SI beam caught them as well but just barely. That is why they did not show up well in the DI but real good on 2D because I was in 200/83 on the 2D settings. Good eye most would have missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eatmorecrappie
White spots were crappie, and you can see the beds to the left that has crappie in them. Out from the Fuel pumps at Aqua Yacht.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...reekpump02.jpg
Pete
I agree tcounty. I have had my 598SI for over a year and if I saw this on my hummingbird SI, I would have passed right by it and called it trash, humps, or nothing. Thank you LowePro for posting this. I just need to be a little more patient the next time I go out side imaging a lake.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcounty
It is easy to spot crappies running "over" them with SI, down imaging, or 2D but after seeing LowePro's screen shot above, I think those clouds to the left of Bean2302's screen shot are crappies too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bean2302
Here is best I have of what I have of crappie on bed......literally hundreds of crappie. They were only few feet off of a dam. Pic would be better but I was in a kayak...stopped....marker out, catching fish...LOL.
Regards
It took me a while to see what crappie ACTUALLY look like in side and down imaging. I used to look for perfect arches (like you see in advertisements) the truth is.... I have NEVER had any good luck with the perfect arches. Once I saw fish on my graph and actually loaded the boat with crappie things started sinking in. Suprisingly ever since I learned what crappie actually look like they are so easy to pik out. Now I can spot em a mile away! Well........a hundred feet anyways hahahaha.
Interesting posts and pictures. Thank you. I have reduced distance for a while now and it defiantly helps spot them. I have also been trying use zoom more but it does get grainy in my 999. I guess that's jus the way it is.
The zoom has never helped me. I attempt to use it all the time, but after the second click of the button things are so blurry I cant a thing about it.
[IMG]http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/...psmpbcgdqq.jpg[/IMG]
Here is crappie I found on my most recent trip on 8/10/15. They were stacked! I will post the results of finding crappie like this.
This was in 32fow
In the image of the fish finder, There is crappie out to both sides of the boat as well. I can see them while Im scanning but for some reason when I take a pic with my fone of my graph they are not popping out as well. If I turn my sharpness to high they jump out even more. I will crank the sharpness up next time I take a pic of my graph and see if that helps.
Lowepro the crappie in the screen shot were they relating to any kind of structure or suspended over a flat ?
Completely suspended. Right off of a channel ledge. Not on it. Immediately adjacent to it. On the deep side.
NICE PICS AND CATCH
So what setting side to side should I use in 30 to 40 foot of water
I read somewhere that 3 times the depth of water. Can't explain why unless you loss whatever depth under boat as to distance to the sides. I know I get better picture on my sonar when in 10 to 15 foot water set on 40 to 60 foot wide. Maybe Rickie or some of the others can explain this better.