I wanted to ask what size split rings to use on bandir 300's
I've got the hooks but I have trouble figuring out which split rings to use
Thanks guys
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I wanted to ask what size split rings to use on bandir 300's
I've got the hooks but I have trouble figuring out which split rings to use
Thanks guys
Glad u brought this up. If I may add, what pliers are best or easy to use? I have several pair, but they sux. Could be me is aging rapidly too.
I use size 0
These are the ones I use CP. Took the straight end and rounded the outside of that off on a grinder to let them fit the 00 and 0 split rings I use on poney heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
Bass Pro Shops 5'' Standard Split Ring Pliers | Bass Pro Shops
I use #1 or #2 on all my pony heads.
On my horse and pony heads I use a 0/1 German split ring, I get them from Hagens, they keep the blades on just fine.
any blade baits or replacing trebles on cranks stainless 1 -2 depending on size of the bait.
Truth be told on split ring pliers I like the cheap worth split ring pliers but I've gone to the Texas Tackle split ring pliers. They'res 2 sizes - I got mine from Cabela's
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On a small crank I use a #1. On a Bandit size bait or a slightly larger C55, I use #2. My eyes aren't what they used to be.
For split ring pliers, you don't save by trying to save. Here is what I use:
Xuron 496 Split Ring Plier: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Thank guy's
I use a #3 on the pull point on the baits I paint, and a 2 1/2 fine on the hooks. This came recommended to me and has worked very well. The pliers I use are made in Pakistan with a bent tip like Mr Dux uses and were cheap as I remember.The bent tip works great.
I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the fine split ring on the hooks ...??Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
Rickie
I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the fine split ring on the hooks ...??Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
Rickie
Hang a hook and straigten the ring, not loose the crank. Rings and hooks are cheaper than finding that perfect bait again. I have a couple that I will openly cry if I ever loose them. Not my idea as I have already said, and y'all know who taught me.
I did a test on the split rings made by Worth ...(my supplier said he gets them direct from Worth) ...Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
I used a poundage scale used for testing bow weight pull (archery) ...the scale has a sliding stop that marks the point where the "pull" stops ...
I tested the Worth #3 Stainless split ring against the Worth #3 fine Stainless split ring ...
The Worth #3 Stainless split ring consistently failed at 45lbs of steady pull ...
The Worth #3 fine Stainlless split ring consistently failed at 21lbs of steady pull ...
I would surmise that the fine Stainless split ring effectively "doubles" the chances of saving the bait upon a major hangup ...
(It most likely also means that large fish hooked such as drum or catfish may actually pull hard enough to fail the fine split ring...but still save the bait) ...
I would doubt any crappie could create enough drag to fail the fine spilt ring ...
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I also tested the brass fine #3 split ring and it failed at less than 10lbs of steady pull (my bow poundage scale does not read that low) ...
Rickie
I don't know the poundage of pull that it would take to make these fail but I will tell of two instances. One of my baits was tied up in a wad of line someone had thrown overboard and I found. Lost my patience trying to get it undone while fish are loading up the other rods and pulled hard on the bait and got the bait, minus the hook as I had straightened the ring. While fishing today I hung 2 whiskerfish that would have been 4lbs or better and while trying to net them I caught a free treble in the net but didn't get the fish in the net. That was how I got them over the gunnel with them thrashing and making a fuss, but the fish went back and the rings on either stood for the fight without so much as stretching. For what it's worth, this was how I was told by one of the best in Mississippi to do things. He was the teacher and I the student and I'll go with his experience. Thanks for the test Rickie, you always help us all.
interesting
thank you all
pPliers I use. The little tip digs in between the rings. New Rapala 8 1 2 Stainless Steel Pliers Free Shipping | eBay
I got this model (x2 or his and hers). It works goo on round split weights. You know, the split weights that somehow are always closed when you pick it up to put on your line.Quote:
Originally Posted by D";3020728]pPliers I use. The little tip digs in between the rings. [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/221828663423?lpid=82&chn=ps
I had a hard time opening a split ring with them. Split ring is too tiny.
I ordered a tool like MRDUX has. That don't work, I will try somethin else.
You need to git one of those Line Force Dynamometers. This is a high tech name for a digital fish scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Got to agree CP, the plier's Dux recommended look good. Post your results.
I tried a couple of other styles. Quit looking after I got those. I bought mine from a local bait/supply store that probably opens more split rings in a week than I will in a lifetime. Only kind they use any more. I paid a whole lot more than the Amazon price for them also.Quote:
Originally Posted by "D"
Tried these pliers out this morning. They work great. After I opened the split ring and started the treble hook, I used my 4' needle nose pliers to work the ring and remove/install then hooks. The process is a breeze now.
Very good advice MRDUX. Very good!
Xuron 496 Split Ring Plier | eBay
Glad to help Tom. I never put those pliers down. I use them to open the split ring to put the hook on them use then to put the ring on the bait and turn them around to finish. Same tool for the whole job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
Glad they worked out for you. I know I tried others with less than good results.
I couldn't see good enough. That is why I used the needle nose. I might be doing things backwards though. Wrong kinda wire for me to comprehend.
Where do you get your split rings?
SPLIT RINGSQuote:
Originally Posted by Speck Beck
Rickie