Some of you have been asking questions about pushing Arkie crankbaits useing trolling weights. Here is how to figure your depth useing the weights. I prefer 3 oz. weights. Attachment 204601
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Some of you have been asking questions about pushing Arkie crankbaits useing trolling weights. Here is how to figure your depth useing the weights. I prefer 3 oz. weights. Attachment 204601
Great chart.
You can thank ScottV on the MS board for doing the math and figureing out the chart. Thanks ScottQuote:
Originally Posted by DockShootinJack
This really helps me out. I've been wanting to get into running crank baits.
for us more simple people.....ie me.....is there a chart for pulling cranks....?...uhhh ..G...no smart comments.......:)
Yes.....look around.....pulling chart was posted yesterday.....look at the crankbait threads its on one of them.
Thanks. I plan on giving pushing a try soon.
Do you catch same amount of crappie either pushing or pulling? Why do you chose one way or the other?
To get the 45 degree angle with 3 ounces of weight what speed are you running? Seems I remember the charts for PULLING cranks calling for 1.8 mph. Is it about the same for pushing?
You can go slower pushing.....amount of weight also depends on wind. I use three oz weights and set my speed watching the line angle. And if its too windy for that to work.....I go home. I usually run 1. 4 to 1.8 depending on conditions to keep line at 45 degrees.
Pushing works good in smaller body's of water because you can make tighter turns etc. I sometimes push and pull at the same time.....some days the push poles outfished the pulling poles and some days its the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by tncrappiebass
Pushing depth chart.......Attachment 204697
I received that same depth chart when Scott sent me his pushing weights. Works nicely.
G thanks for all the advice
Works pretty much the same for pushing jigs, too. (0.6 x length of line out = depth of sinker with line @ 45deg angle) Just got through pushing jigs under 1/2oz sinker, and this is the formula I use to calculate depth of jig. (w/17ft of line @ 45deg angle = jig @ 10ft)Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
... cp :kewl
There are some good apps out to help calculate to the depth of your weight. If you can approximate the angle (any angle) at the tip, you can get a relative good depth approximation. You fill in 2 known values (angle and line out) and the app gives all sorts of data.
The app is easy to use. It is just a trig calculator. Magic app.
Here is an on line version similar to the I phone app.
Try it out with different line outs (hypotenuse or c) and top angle B
Approximate depth to weight is a
Right-Angled Triangle Calculator
Dumb Question, I know...BUT What Exactly is Longline type Fishing...Longlining?? Fish off the Bottom, 2 hooks....in 10 ft, go 6 and 8 ft, etc...????TRYING to figure this SUMMER Crappie Fishing out...( with the 90 degree heat)...Do they go into Deep water, SHADED area's, SHALLOW...Thanks CrappieMaster's in Advance...AirWolf49 in Crystal River, FL
Crappie will seek out the most comfortable water they can find. They prefer shade, whether that's acquired by depth or getting in the shade of a fixed object (tree, dock, etc). Extremely warm water loses oxygen faster than cooler water, so they seek out areas where cooler water exists (shade, weeds).Quote:
Originally Posted by Airwolf49
Longlining .... is merely trolling with your lines well behind the boat. It's usually associated with jigs, but can relate to any style bait. When using crankbaits, rods out the front & pointing more towards the direction of travel is usually referred to as "pushing" ... while rods out the back & pointing away from the direction of travel is referred to as "pulling". "Pulling" cranks is actually "longlining" cranks. One can also push/pull jigs, and usually involves added weight to keep the bait at a deeper depth than the weight of the bait alone would produce.
Boat speed, weight of rigging, line size, and lure style are taken into account to keep the bait at a specific depth.
At least, that's the way I understand it.
... cp :kewl
WOW...THANK-YOU Crappie Pappy...Makes sense, now.... There LOT of un-used docks where I'am..Will try that, AND going Deeper in my couple of proven spots..REALLY Appreciate the Info, as I'm new here , but am "learning fast"...AirWolf49...Crystal River, FL,...shooti'n docks, yes..
Perhaps another dumb question, but hopefully someone can help out. The slip sinker type rigging especially above a crank bait, how are you doing that? I am assuming you don't let the sinker slide all the way to the crank. Do you use a leader with a swivel and put the weight above it or just a little rubber sinker think with a bead (similar to slip bobber in reverse?
Thanks
You can put the weight above a barrel swivel and then tie a snap swivel to the leader (about 3 ft.) and tie the leader to the barrel swivel. Then you can easily change baits with out having to tie on.
I use a slip sinker on the main line ... which has a duo-lock snap tied on the end. And there's a bead between the sinker & snap, which has a hole large enough to slip over the knot. This protects the knot from damage by sinker movement or pressure. My baits are rigged on varying lengths of lighter pound test mono leaders, which have the bait on one end and a loop knot on the other. But, I'm mostly using jigs, not cranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by rcornish
The crank guys I know of are putting swivels on the end of their main line ... they pre-rig trolling weights on a leader and put snaps or swivels on the other end, then wrap them around a section of "pool noodle". Their cranks are kept in tackle boxes, arranged by color & model size. Their leader lines are generally 5ft long, and of a lighter pound test than the main line. Those that use "slip sinker" style weights are rigging them like I do my jigs.
Most 'bobber stops' are not sufficient to hold the heavy slip sinker weights in place, and if you use the trolling weights (which have rings &/or ring/swivel built in) the bobber stop would be redundant.
You can get trolling weights from Grizzly Jig or Bass Pro Shop that has the swivels built in them.....snap weight on line then three ft. leader from weight to crankbait.......or you can order some from ScottV on the MS board.
Thanks all for the answers to my questions...