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I HAVE A 998 AND A 859 ON BACK,IS THERE ANYWAY U CAN BUY OR MAKE CONNECTOR THAT WILL LET BOTH UNITS USE ONE 2D FOR BOTH AND AT SAME TIME DI ON 859 AND SI ON 998 SO WOULD NOT GET INTERFERENCE OR MIGHT DAMAGE UNITS AND OTHER UNIT 2D BE SHUT OFF.I DON'T THINK SO ,JUST A THOUGHT
IT IS NO WAY TO LINK THE TWO 2D TOGETHER AND NOT THE DI AND SI SO THEY WOULD BE INDERPENDENT?
You can do this feat with Lowrance HDS via Ethernet. I am not familiar with HB Ethernet. You cannot share a 2d with any manufacturers units tied to a common cable transducer at the same time. You can select 2d by switch to multiple units.
HB Ethernet is also the best way to do this ...
I cannot come up with a cabling scenario in my head that would allow 1 piezo to feed data to 2 head units at the same time ...
Cabling channels are always 1 transmit/receive signal - thru the wire channel - to/from 1 piezo ...
Rickie
I can create a cabling scenario that would connect one 2d xducer to both unit's 2d channel and select which unit the 2d data would go to ...
But that's one unit at a time ... Leaving the "Un-channeled" unit with no 2d while the other is using it ...
Rickie
THANKS GUYS,JUST WAS WANTING TO STOP 2D INTERFERENCE TO BOTH UNITS WHILE ON AT SAME TIME,WHILE ONE IS ON SI AND OTHER IS ON DI , WILL TRY SOMETHING ELSE
Are the units ethernetted ...??
Rickie
NO RICKIE,WOULD THAT HELP?
G, if you buy an Ethernet cable of the right length you need and an AS EC QDE adapter for the 859 you can choose the 2D source for each unit - so only the XDCR is active and displays that info from the one set as the "master".
When I am running I set the 998's transducer (stern) as the 2D source and the 899 has the depth on the bow while the trolling motor is out of the water.
I think this is exactly what you want, right??
HTH,
Robert
Like Robert said ... You will need the AS EC QDE for connecting the 859 to the Ethernet cable ...(the 998 has a direct Ethernet connection in the metal round port in the back of the 998 - the 859 Ethernet connection is in the cable collector that requires the AS EC QDE adapter cable) ...
Then you will need the Ethernet cable long enough to reach between the 2 units ...
AS EC xE ... Where "x" is the length of the cable ...
Ethernet cables come in 2, 10, 15, 20, and 30ft lengths ...
Rickie
WILL THAT CABLE ALLOW BOTH UNITS TO RUN 998 SI AND 859 DI AT SAME TIME AND MINIMAZE CROSS TALK,DUCERS 5 FEET AWAY.
You will only be using the transmitter of one unit you choose, the other ("slave") will be using the the selected XDCR (as "master") fro 2D.
You may or may not be able to mix and match the "Advanced" sonar, I have not been able to test my 998c HDSI and 859ci HD to see if the latest software update allows all technologies to be shared.
Let us know what your results are.
The 2D should share just fine though.
455 on one 800 on other should work
"Should" .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
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TOM ,THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING NOW BUT ONE IS MESSING UP MY LOWRANCE 2D AND DI THAT IS UP FRONT,HAVE TO TURN OFF SONAR EACH TIME I FISH AT FRONT,WITH WARMER WEATHER ON WAY I WILL TEST A LITTLE MORE,WHEN COLD I JUST FISH AND DON'T PLAY WITH UNITS MUCH
Well, obviously a Lowrance is a problem .....Quote:
Originally Posted by genec
:Rofl :highfive
You'll have to do something about that unit!!!
nonono
Sounds like same frequency x talk. Point the di xducer up front at about 5 degree angle forward. Point the di aft 5 degree in the opposite direction. These are acceptable angles. Worth a try.
Gene, you testing in the garage? If so, move some cables around. If not, move some cables around if you can. All cables/wires are antennas of some sort.
If I'm not mistaken, I think one of Gene's problems is with his 998 and 859 running at the same time. Both transducers ping the 200 frequency for the depth reading and he's getting interference due to that. I know his 859 DI transducer is crapping out on him in the 2D mode. We determined that by trying another transducer and the 2D worked fine. So a question for those in the know. Is it possible to cut the pins for the 2D signal on the dud transducer and still get a DI picture? Without the 859 pinging 200 frequency too, maybe he would eliminate the interference. He wouldn't need to know the depth of the water on the 859, as his 998 is right beside the 859. If this is possible, and someone knows which pins are for 2D sonar, could you post a diagram of the 2D pins? What Gene is trying to accomplish, is to take advantage of the better DI picture of the 859 transducer, but then be able to use the SI picture on the 998 to determine what side of the boat the structure he sees in the DI unit is on.
This makes more sense. I had a similar problem on my Jon. Repositioning front vs rear pitch (2d only) helped solve the issue. Well gene, your broken SI unit works on a half shell doesn't it? The one you mounted backwards. I would believe that removing the pin should work. I would believe the 2d with wire removed would go in a continuous bottom search mode (rapid fire). This is the way Garmin and Lowrance would more likely work anyway.
Some transducers use a single wire to multifrequency transducers and multiplex the signals on the single wire. I just don't know the arrangement of the HB. But if your di is still working on the one with the crap out 2d, then I would try the pin.
If you were near I could scope it out for you. My scope is collecting dust.
THANKS TOM,HAVE U GOT YOUR MOTOR LIFT WORKING YET
yes. Works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by genec
Here is what the 2d pings look like. You can see the ping---ping. Then you will see the rapid fire ping.ping.ping. The head unit is looking for bottom without the transducer hooked up. If the xducer hooked, you can feel the pulses you see on the scope.
These are 200Khz pings.
Check out Billbob.
Pings.flv Video by Tlewis38344 | Photobucket
TOM,HOW MANY HEARTBEATS PER MIN.LOL
A scope is a Godsend. It takes the scratch out of the itch.
Gene ... Here's 2 options ...
Option 1 ...
*Add AS SIDB Y cable and another HB xducer capable of 2d to the 859 DI ... (Any HB xducer with the "House shaped" connector) ...
*Put this extra xducer in the boat (out of the water)
*Set "Max Depth" under the Sonar tab to 10ft below actual water depth ...
This will keep the unit from going into what Tom calls "bottom search mode" ... (From not getting a depth reading from the additional xducer in the boat) ...
Option 2 ... (If the 2d is going bad in the XNT 9 DI T anyway) ...
*Remove pin #6 in the XNT 9 DI T (200kHz/455kHz 2d) ...
*Set "Max Depth" under the Sonar tab to 10ft below actual water depth ...(same reason as option 1) ...
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps352cb57e.png
I'm fairly certain the DI in the 859 can get everything it needs from the DI piezo ... And only the ping rate is determined by the 2d depth ... Except setting the "Max Depth" in manual forces the unit to not wait for a 2d return echo from a "bottom it will never see" with the 2d xducer in the boat ...
Rickie
hey guys, You may not understand everything he says, but you will learn from reading his post. Most of it is over my head, but when he speaks, you had better listen....... I do..... crappie1133Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Sometimes I just wish I had more efficient wording ...(to keep from writing an encyclopedia in some of my posts)...Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie1133
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Rickie
THANKS GUYS