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I am about to pull the trigger on an 899 (I think, I seem to change my mind daily). Anyway, until I am able to buy a second unit up front, would I be able to pull my 899 from the back when I get to where I am going so I can see it when im fishing up front when im running the trolling motor? If so, what would I need to make itva simple operation?
I did that and used the transom transducer. All you need is another power cable and a transducer extension cable. If you buy another TD to mount on TM that would be better.
If I get a terrova, is the built in transducer, the universal sonar, sufficient instead of buying a second transducer?Quote:
Originally Posted by wilbur
BUILT IN TM DUCER IS ONLY 2D
Not if you want to use all the functions. The transducer in motor is for 2d only. If you want Side and down and do not want to buy extra transducer then do it like Wilbur said.
It really depends on what sonar you want to use when you are fishing at the bow. As others have stated; the 2D sonar (200/83kHz) from the US2 will work but you will not have any Si/Di sonar unless you mount an Si transducer up front as well.
It also depend on how you are going to mount the unit at the bow. By using a mount system like a RAM mount you could buy two mount bases for it and not have to buy the Humminbird GM-2 Gimbal Mount.
Let me know how you want to proceed and I can get you a parts list of what you will need.
Greg, I just purchased a Helix5 from BPS but let the salesman talk me out of putting it on the trolling motor. What are the pros and cons of doing this and what transducer do I need to do it?
Which model HELIX 5 did you get don3778?
Pros for any model would be that you will be getting 2D sonar information from the location that you are fishing and not some 10 to 20 feet to towards the back end of the boat. Cons would be that you would not have the HELIX 5 unit at the console where you may need it while making a run in your boat or when quickly scouting out new fishing locations.
Parratt, I have the 899 and love it! I bought the model with the standard transducer (I think they all come with the standard) and then I bought the HD transducer for the unit. This way I have two transducers and I put the HD ducer on the stern and one on the bow on my Motorguide TM. Since I do all my scanning while at the yoke I use the HD to my advantage and then when I locate a pile I drop the TM and unplug the unit from the back an move it up front and plug it into a separate set of power and ducer cables. (bought the extra power cable as well for the unit to move up front).
Most people buy the 899 and send in the non HD ducer and exchange it for the HD for a fee of about $90. But to buy the HD out right was only $100 more than just exchanging it so I opted to buy.
Once I get my next unit I may get another 899 or compatible one with the ducer I already have or get another HD ducer. I will wait to see.
Yes it is a lot of work sometimes (you have to get two mounts as well which adds up) but I figure I can handle this until I find some money somewhere!
Hope this helps.
Greg, I got the Helix 5 si/gps. I'll be using it to find my own tops that I have a good idea where they are so therefore I am really wanting to use on the front. The salesman was trying to tell me that I couldn't tell anything about anything since I would be turning the trolling motor!
He could be right don3778, but that really depends on how well you understand the Si sonar and how much you turn the trolling motor. Experienced Si sonar users don't have a problem with this. Just be patient and use it around some structures that you already know what they are and where they are. Use the trolling motor at different speeds and with/without turning the trolling motor as you pass them. Use them as a training tool and then get out on the lake a scout some more Crappie holes - but remember to post pictures of your success!
Thanks Greg. Which transducer do I need to order for the front? Yes sir I will be posting pics soon as I get it installed and all this rain quits.
I think a ram mount seems like the way to go. Those part lists would be awesome! See, I am already feeling good about my Bird decision!Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminbird_Greg
That makes a lot of sense for sure. I think that's the way ill go as well. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by kickingback
- XHS-9-HDSi-180-T High-Def Side Imaging transom mount transducer
- PC-11 Power Cable
- 540233-1 Cable Connector Collector for 800/900ci Series units. This will have to be ordered straight from the Humminbird Customer Service folks.
- GM-2 Gimbal mount for all of the 800/900 series units. This is only needed if you do not go with a RAM type mount. If you do use a RAM type mount, do not forget to buy the second mounting base for it.
my 898 and 999 both come with the xhs-9-hdsi 180 t transducer im sure the 899 will have it also. so what is the upgrade td? i would buy the 859 and put in front with a rebate it would not cost much more than the parts your wanting. thats my .02$ i see no rebates
According to the website, the 899 and 859 both come with the standard transducer, the xnt 9 si 180 t or the xnt 9 di t. The upgrade is to the high def transducer, the hdsi. You have to upgrade to get the hdsi according to everything I can find and per Brian at BBG Marine.Quote:
Originally Posted by warbird
they must of switched them my 898 was not hd and it has the hd td. thats what it says on the td cable. Humminbird 899ci HD SI Review – Best Fish Finders - Unbiased User Reviews this one got it, so it says might be a misprint. maybe we are not on same thing lol
And the XHS-9-HDSi-180-T that Greg listed is not for the 899 according to the Humminbird website, so I think he was listing this for the guy with the 1198?
The 899 comes stock with the XNT 9 SI 180 T ... This was one of the cost cutting factors that's allowed the 899 price to be so much lower than the 898 ...
Greg's parts list would be for parratt1 (the OP).... Who was inquiring about a second station for his soon to be purchased 899 ...
Rickie
You can also use the XHS 9 HDSI 180 T on your Helix 5 SI ...Quote:
Originally Posted by don3778
If it is to be installed on the trolling motor ... You need the XTM 9 HDSI 180 T ... Which is the same HDSI xducer but comes with TM hardware instead of transom mount hardware ...
Rickie
I just thought of something. If I am going to install the standard ducer up front on the trolling motor, I'll need a trolling motor mount correct? Is there a way to just change the mount? If I buy the high def to install on the transom, but buy the trolling motor mount high def,can I just then just swap the mounts?? Thus allowing me to pit the standard up front on the motor and the high def on the transom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminbird_Greg
If you are going to put the standard CSi transducer that comes with the 899ci HD Si unit on the trolling motor, I would exchange it for the XTM-9-Si-180-T which was made for trolling motor mounting and can take a little more punishment before breaking. It also has another layer of RF shielding to help with trilling motor interference in case you have it. You will have to contact the Humminbird Customer Service folks (1-800-633-1468) to set this up. Just don't open any hardware bags or uncoil the transducer before you send them off.
If you bought the transom and trolling motor versions of the HDSi transducer, then yes you can just swap the mounts between the HDSi transducers as they are the same except that one comes with transom mounting hardware and one comes with trolling motor mounted hardware - but you cannot swap mounting hardware with the CSi transducer as the HDSi and CSi transducers use different mounting hardware.
OK. So either buy the HDSi trans for both trolling motor and transom, or exchange the CSi transducer that comes with it (XNT 9 SI 180 T) for a XTM-9-Si-180-T and put it on the trolling motor and get a XHS 9 HDSI 180 T for the transom. Do I have all of these numbers right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminbird_Greg
These 2 are the exact same xducer but each comes with different hardware ...:Quote:
Originally Posted by parratt1
XHS 9 HDSI 180 T = HDSI with transom mount hardware
XTM 9 HDSI 180 T = HDSI with TM mount hardware
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These 2 come in different shaped housings and different hardware ...
XNT 9 SI 180 T = Compact SI skimmer with transom mount hardware
XTM 9 SI 180 T = Compact SI puck with TM mount hardware (and extra RFI shielding)
Rickie
Exchange the CSi (XNT-9-Si-180-T) transducer that comes with your unit and buy only one of the HDSi transducers.