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Question for you crankbait guys. What determines whether you pull/long line or push out front of boat with 3way and heavy weight??? Wanting to try fishing some this year and not sure which way is best or how to decide. Fishing deep would push out the front and pull for shallower water out the back of boat??
Fish and conditions determine it for me. Trashy water is easier to push in so the bait itself dont get fouled as bad, super deep will put you to pushing as well, and if you are want to fish a spot that is pretty tite its easier to push sometimes. When I have 10 rods out most of the time I am pushing at least 2 and if the fish seem to want it that way then I will push 4. Sometimes it doesnt matter and sometimes they want it one way or the other. Keep 10 of scottVs 3 oz weights in the corner in front of my console all the time so if I feel the need to push they are handy, this includes all methods from pushing minners to pulling cranks and anything in between.
There are several advantages to pushing crankbaits. No. 1 is being able to get a small shallow running crankbait like the small Arkie Crappie Crank to the depth you want it to run. No. 2 is when maneuvering around cover, like stumps. You can turn more quickly without wrapping your lines around them. No. 3 is being able to have more baits in the water without having as many long lines behind the boat to get tangled. I normally pull 4 baits and push 4 at the same time.
How were you going to use a 3-way and push a crank? ScottV's 3oz weight is a lot cleaner application and works like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampseed
The only way I have seen to push a crank is with a 3-6oz weight at end and about 18" leader off the middle using a 3way. Was told depending on boat speed and weight you keep lines straight up and down and spider rig out front of boat. This not right??? I have not seen but will look to find pic on ScottV's weight.
Its an inline weight hooks to main line with a 3ft. leader going to crank. No swivel.
Has a built in swivel to help with twist
I use Scott's pushing weights in both the 3oz (for shallower fish) and the 4oz. (For deeper fish). There's no better method to push cranks with!!! The right angle chart is spot on also.
It sure is, marked fish at 23 feet deep last summer at Enid, changed a couple rods over to pushing the 3oz weights, let em out with 45 foot of line out and BAM!! 2 years ago I wouldnt have caught these fish but using ScottVs weights made it pretty easy to set up and go deep. Did the same thing a month later on Grenada and caught em 20 foot deep, works like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
With the 4oz weight and the line at a 45 degree angle at 1.7mph, the correct line out should be 31-33' to fish at 23' depth depending on how far above the crappie you want the crank to travel. At 30' of line out the weight travels at appoximately 20' deep, or 2/3's of the line out and you add 1' more for the crank with a 3-4' leader off the weight for a total crank depth of 21'. 33' of line out would be 22' weight depth and crank depth of 23'.
I was using the 3oz Bill, dont have any 4s but for deeper fishing I bet they would be great.
I am guessing at the boat speed and 3oz plus weight you would need a different/heavier action rod than your normal double minnow rig rod???
Yeah, got a couple of 14 foot Firecast Rods that do real well and then I use a couple of short rods. I have used BGJPs in a pinch but man they bowed up!!! Was powertrolling double minner rigs, paid off too.
Rees Guide do you take guided trips Where do you fish? Bread man N W ALABAMA thanks
PST's will work fine. I use several different lengths to get a 4' spread on my baits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampseed
Yep....BnM PST's
Pull and push the fish will tell you then double down Find them then grind them