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Fairly new to crappie fishing here, mainly bass fished up till now. I mainly fish the feeder creeks into the Arkansas river and have been catching a few crappie up until now. Went out the other day and could not buy a bite until i motored over a school of something and dropped down and ended up catching a limit of white bass. Was talking to some guys at work and they mentioned that the white bass will run the crappie out of their holes. Is this true?
Man I dont know. I have caught em together before and never knew what was gonna bite my hook next. Seems like they would get in ur hook first because they r way more aggressive. Maybe someone else can help ya with this one.
Not so sure about that, I catch both Crappie and White Bass at times where the baitfish are. But have heard same thing about baiting spots for Catfish and running out Crappie , all I can say is Bull Crap . I catch Crappie on my baited Catfish holes every summer. We used to see schools of Gar surfacing in the river in hot summer , fished right through the Gar catching Crappie and of course Gar.:fish
I usually find big crappie in the same spots I'm catching whites. They're both feeding on the same bait fish in those areas. Your friend has missed some great fishing if he thinks the whites run off the crappie. I like finding whites because I know the crappie are close by feeding on the bait fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by rzrbakhunter
Thanks for the info guys! That's what I was kind of thinking in the back of my mind was that they are both there for the same reason to find food!
A Trick a local Crappie fishermen showed me on our home lake is when you catch a white bass from a tree top or brush pile. Put them in your live well,cooler until you get through fishing the tree or top. If you turn them loose right after catching them they will go right back into the tree or brush pile. Take them down the lake or river then release them.
Sure hope they are White Bass. The White Perch is very similar and when they get in the lake they will wipe out the white bass and may have a bad effect on the crappie. They are actually in the bass family being most closely related to the Striped Bass. They have become such a nuisance in the SC lakes that the DNR delisted them as a game fish and there or no limits on them.
On the plus side, they are good eating and if you get into a school of them you can catch a cooler full as fast as you can drop a line in.
We use to go to Santee Cooper each March for the White Bass spawning run and catch a bunch of fish. We have not seen one in 15 years, once the perch got in there.
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I think we call them yellow bass? In sippi - Strokers . how do you cook them.?
Yellow Bass and the White Perch are different fish. We have Yellow Bass on some lakes and they are smaller than White Bass . Our Game and Fish Commission removed limit on them here. As far as I know we don't have White Perch.
Unfortunately we do have some white perch in Arkansas. They came down the Arkansas River from Oklahoma. There abundance is not high yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
Matt what are you calling a white perch? I know we have white and black crappie, white bass, striped bass, hybrid striped bass and yellow bass, but a white perch?Quote:
Originally Posted by D10
This is a good definition of them. Other fish, like White Crappie, are sometimes called white perch but this is the true species. Seems like every fish has dozen local names given to it.
White perch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As SeaRay pointed out, some people call white crappie white perch. Similar to people calling most sunfish brim. This is why there are scientific names. There are too many common names for the same fish. White perch are related to white bass, yellow bass, and striped bass. These fish are in the Morone family. These fish are know as temperate bass. Most people in Arkansas have not heard about white perch yet, because they haven't caught one and they aren't abundant enough to be a problem (yet).Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaRay
At lake Martin, Alabama, one of the locals told me that there were huge schools of white and hybrid bass that roamed the lake. Once they visited a cove, they would eat all the bait fish out and leave no food for the other fish and the cove would become a place with no fish. We found these on the sonar and were catching one on every cast until we got stormed out. The next day, we thought we could go back to the same place and do it again, but the water was completely dead.
Several years ago I had never heard of them. Then we started catching one here and there. For a while I thought they were white bass. The small ones look a lot alike.
Now we got 10 million of them and virtually no white bass. I can't remember the last time I caught a white bass. The guys here have discovered they are excellent catfish bait. That is the small ones, the larger ones, 1/2 lb. and up to 2 lbs. are good to eat if filleted and skinned.
Boy, RCC,it is hard to tell if they are white bass or white perch when you compare them to my live well shot on first page. One good way is to lift the dorsal fin. If both come up when you lift one, it is a white perch. Apparently they fins are joined on the perch and not the bass. Least that is what one of our DNR biologists told me.
We have caught Stipers mixed in with perch schools, but no white bass. Hope they don't wipe out y'alls White Bass like they did ours. Is there a limit on white perch in your state??
Do they have red flesh you have to trim off the filet, like white bass, hybrids, and stripers?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaRay
http://libinfo.uark.edu/aas/issues/2007v61/v61a20.pdf
Here a scientific journal that talks about the first documented occurrence in Arkansas.
Thanks SeaRay and D10, like you said, I haven't seen or caught one yet.
That's interesting due to I'm fishing that pool of the river not too far from the dam. I'm pretty sure these were white bass though.Quote:
Originally Posted by D10
The first time we caught some of these rascals was in Santee Cooper several years ago. They were small so we cooked them whole like bluegill or other pan fish that we did not fillet. We usually fillet everything, even smaller pan fish, but sometimes we like them fried whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by D10
Well, no one cared for the perch so I kind of wrote them off until we stared catching larger ones by the cooler full. Filleted and skinned they were excellent so I am guessing that they are like the white bass and Stripers and need to have the skin removed.
Since they run around a pound or less, once you take the skin off I don't notice much of a red stripe, but I would remove any evidence of one to be sure.
They are not regulated here anymore, but the state record is just under 2 pounds, and I bet several state records have been eaten without realizing it.