Trolling motor lift for Genec

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Some more info:

The BowMountLift mounts to Terrova and Risptide ST motors without any drilling/modifications to your motor. The bracket slips around the shaft and sits on the metal collar of the main housing. There are two other bolts on the bottom that secure the bracket in place using the two little indentations on the bottom of the housing. That's all there is to mounting the bracket.

At the bottom of the shaft there is a stainless split shaft collar that clamps around the metal part where the shaft connects to the motor. Two bolts and that is done. A stainless cable connects to the shaft collar and a spool on the motor and provides the lifting/lowering capability.

A momentary toggle switch then needs to be mounted somewhere in your boat. This is usually going to be at your steering console, or near your stern if you are running a tiller. Run wires from one of your trolling batteries to the switch, then from the switch to the lift motor and you are done with the install. The kit comes with everything you need to do the install except the wire.

Stow/Deploy - This product does not deploy or stow the trolling motor, so that is still requires manual labor. I deploy the motor at the dock after I launch and then stow it when I get back to the dock before trailering. All other lift/lowering operations while you are fishing are done with a simple up or down on the toggle switch which lifts/lowers the motor in about 3-4 seconds. When I'm ready to run, I start my big motor and by the time the RPMs on my motor wind down enough to put it in gear, I can have the trolling motor up and ready to run. On the flip side, simply lower the motor and start fishing again.

As I mentioned, this lift only moves the trolling motor straight up and down, so it requires that you run with the trolling motor in the vertical position which is initially awkward for most. I was a bit worried about it at first, so I tested the lift (with a few of my close friends) for about a year to validate the cable strength before I was comfortable selling the unit to the general public. I've crashed through many wave as hard as possible trying to break it and have not been able to do so.

WOW ,RON I LIKE THAT,HAVE TO WORK ON THAT

Pretty neat

I am in the process of building a lift for my troll motor I have installed aft that I use the ™ for a quick reverse. It is a 40# MK endura. I can remote steer it and remote power it, but have trouble lifting it out of the water because it is mounted on the racks and I have to lean over the rail to lift.

I ordered a low rpm Hi torque used gear head motor from Ebay. It should be here Friday. It is 50 rpm, so I may have to do a sight beer reduction if I cannot pulse the motor slow enough to obtain a reasonable lift rate. I plan to use stranded wire cable (lawn mower throttle cable) and use a weed eater spool for the lift wire reel drum. I don't know how I will mount it yet.

I saw the motor used in the link above on Ebay a couple a weeks ago when I was looking for a gear head.

I will look closer at this mount when the internet stabilizes. Keeps crashing here.

Good idea.

Hey Cane Pole !
"BEER" reduction?? does that mean Billbob is helping?

haha. I ain't gonna edit it. Billbob will get excited about this.

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Originally Posted by genec

WOW ,RON I LIKE THAT,HAVE TO WORK ON THAT

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Didn't know about this gadget. I have in in the planning stages though. Gonna try to use this motor. It should lift the endura #40, but it may be a little fast. I could only calculate on a no load speed. Not many specs provided.

Merkle Korff 12VDC Gear Head Motor or Hand Crank 12VDC Generator 26 67 304 GM | eBay

TOM,THEY HAVE ONE THAT IS 4.5 RPM,THE ONE LIKE U GOT IS MUCH LIKE THE MOTORS I USE FOR MY BOUY WINDER. I AM USEING ONE TO MAKE A LIFT FOR MY XI5,THE GUY DO NOT MAKE A LIFT FOR XI5 YET AND I WANT ONE NOW,COLD IN MY SHOP SO ONLY WORK A LITTLE TODAY BUT DID ENOUGH TO SEE I CAN MAKE ME ONE

You got a 4.5 rpm one? I didn't see it. I got this because it was cheep. Experiment before I spend money on a good one.

I made a lot of stuff with the gearmotors from power wheels. Clyde the fishing robot had several power wheels and also window motors.

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Originally Posted by Cane Pole

Didn't know about this gadget. I have in in the planning stages though. Gonna try to use this motor. It should lift the endura #40, but it may be a little fast. I could only calculate on a no load speed. Not many specs provided.

Merkle Korff 12VDC Gear Head Motor or Hand Crank 12VDC Generator 26 67 304 GM | eBay

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CP, read down in the description at bottom that it is an 18 RPM motor.

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Originally Posted by cray

CP, read down in the description at bottom that it is an 18 RPM motor.

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Good. He musta edited it. Said 50 rpm last week. I can live with that. That is prob no load speed too. This eliminates gear reduction.

I calculated the speed at 18 rpm to be .3 fps. I have an 1 1/2 inch center spool diameter weed eater string holder. Multiply the diameter of THE SPOOL (1.5) x pii = 4.71 inches circumference of spool. This is the inches per second wind up. I have to wind about 2 feet of line to retract the trolling motor. So retraction will take about 5 seconds. Sounds bout rite. I miss PANMAN. He always checked my math.

You guys didn't check my math. 4.71 is distance traveled in 1 revolution (not per second). I forgot to multiply this number 4.71 (circumference of spool) by the rps (.3) to get the distance traveled per second. So the real lift time would be 1.4 inches per second. Somewhat slow. I can speed it up with a bigger diameter spool or use 24v. No problem.

Thinking out loud. I miss the Virginian. I am getting obsolete.

30 seconds? Where you going in a hurry?

Shellback Is that a windshield wiper motor?

I WAS GOING TO CHECK YOUR MATH BUTI REMEMBER THAT I SKIP SCHOOL THAT DAY,LOL

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Originally Posted by wilbur

Shellback Is that a windshield wiper motor?

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Looks like one to me. I really know nothing about the product, but figured Gene would pick it up and run with it.

It is a power window motor.

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Originally Posted by Cane Pole

It is a power window motor.

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That makes sense with the thinner profile. On one of the pictures of the product, it showed a round motor similar to a windshield wiper motor. I'm guessing the weight of the trolling motor lowers it, when you hit the down switch. Do you think there's a micro switch that stops the motor at the bottom so it doesn't just unravel cable, or there's only enough cable to reach the bottom?

I am not sure, but it leaves some slack in the cable so to steer.

Funny how you brought this up when I was working on one. Glad you did though. Gave me a few more ideas. I ain't gonna spend no 400 dollar though. Mine will made of scrap parts for the most of it.

Gene , Take rpm of motor X circumference of drum divide by 60 = inch per second lift. I just left off the divide by 60 part.:yikes

I depend on total recall. I guess I need to invest in a teleprompter. ha

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Originally Posted by Cane Pole

I am not sure, but it leaves some slack in the cable so to steer.

Funny how you brought this up when I was working on one. Glad you did though. Gave me a few more ideas. I ain't gonna spend no 400 dollar though. Mine will made of scrap parts for the most of it.

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:biggrinI spent more money on the stainless bolts for my slide bracket then I had tried up in the hole project.They think a lot of those little bolts:biggrinyeall, going to hang a flag on the top of those trolling motors?

I get my scraps from the local high school vo tech scrap bin. Ima dumpster diver. ha

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Originally Posted by Cane Pole

It is a power window motor.

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Thanks CP. I knew it looked familiar.

im new to the forum after talking with Ron G on the phone about my BowMountLift. Please let me know if you guys have any questions about how it works.

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Originally Posted by hookinupwalleye

im new to the forum after talking with Ron G on the phone about my BowMountLift. Please let me know if you guys have any questions about how it works.

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You should consider being an advertiser here. If any group of fishermen would benefit the most from the lift, it would be crappie fishermen fishing brushpiles.

THE GUY DO NOT HAVE ONE FOR XI5 SO I AM MAKING ME ONE IF WEATHER WOULD CO-OPERATE.I THINK THE SWITCH IS A ON-OFF-ON SWITCH,WANT IT BEFORE I START CAMPING IN MIDDLE OF MARCH.A X15 IS A LITTLE HARDER TO MAKE A BRACKET FOR ,ALSO MOTOR IS CLOSER TO TURNIN MOTOR WHEN IN STOW POSITION,LEAVING HARDLY ANY ROOM FOR COLLAR AT BOTTOM BUT I THINK I GOT THAT FIGURE OUT,LIFTING BRACKET IS ALMOST FINISH

Waterproof switch I used Gene. Great for reversing directions. I used it on my transducer lift.

Waterproof Toggle Switch 3 Position Reverse Polarity DC Motor Control Momentary | eBay

THANKS TOM