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I'm going I get material to tie up some bucktails/hair jigs.
There are so many dang colors, so for you guys who tie or have fished them do you have any favorites? Trying to just get a nice combo of colors so im not buying too much stuff that don't produce. Thanks!
Any color plus chartreuse!!!!!
You gotta have chartreuse with white thrown in for good measure!
blue and white and orange and black
white, black ,chartreuse.
Blue - Green - Pink - White - Chartreuse .... alone & in varying combinations, have been the most productive colors I've used.
... cp :kewl
depending on water clarity, Chartreuse, FL Blue, White as well as if particularly stained water, Hot Orange is great and maybe Black and Chart together. Really Hot Pink or even Fuchsia .Most clear water I like Silver head and in Stained Chart, FL Yellow ,etc. etc.
White , chart, black, orange/brown light grey
You guys are talking hair colors right?
I know one thing I have read and that was to have a dark top and lighter bottom just like a real baitfish.
That's interesting about the blue. I definitely have to try that.
Also tying some up for walleye while I'm at it.
Im glad you said that I forgot about the grey colored bucktails. Man they are a great color.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollfly
I like a gray and fox squirrel.
I haven't tied any gray squirrel in years, gonna have to tie some up pretty soon.
I found a mix of other colors on ebay for cheap. Small amounts of orange, black, blue, pink and so on in a bag for a few bucks. Then buy 3 NORTHERN whitetails for the majority of what you'll be using. I have tied 1/2 to 1 1/2oz bucktails and used blue and green and black, just a little, on the back and some red or pink on the belly, using red thread for the tie. Use more cement than for crappie as these are going to take a beating in comparison to what we normally use. Flourescent colors work good as accent colors. Northern tails tend to be longer and thicker, but not always able to be found. Look at what's in the catalogs for color choices. Walleye like green and brown but there too, look around first.
I USE WHITE,WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FEW OF YOUR BEST COLOR HAIR JIGS,MAY MAKE SOME IF I CAN GET THOSE COLORS,
Thanks guys,
Picked up a few colors tonight to get me going as I'm really wanting to tie some up. Even going to try few ice fishing.
Skeetbum,
When I tie the ones for walleye you say use red or pink as the belly? Should the whole belly be pink/red? Or mix red/pink with white on the belly? Thanks?
Smoltz, Go to the Jig and tying forum and do a search for hair gigs. There are a ton of posts and a lot of pics. Bo
I'd do solid pink on bottom if there are any trout in the lake walleye around here love purple top pink bottom
I was going to mention using some red to simulate blood is good too, even if its tied on a jig with a red hook, I havent used hair jigs for Crappie, but Smallmouth seem to like them in Winter.
Pink/black,chartreuse if I had to pick one.
I can't speak for color combo's on the walleye jigs as I've never tied any of those, just seen a few in tackle boxes at yard sales and flea markets. I know they were for walleye cuz of the stinger hook. 1 oz football heads in dark green and chartreuse bucktail cut short just behind the bend of the hook.
Most bucktails i have tied have been on banana heads of 3/4oz or more. You'll use lots of hair so plan ahead.
One thing I forgot to say and since some mentioned the Large Northern Ducktails, I would option for Southern Ducktails as the hair is more thin and not as stiff. I like it so much better! Just my 2 cents and yes I am not so found of the Large Northern ones even though I do have some, but bought before I understood the difference!
I tied up some last night for. Crappie first and the hair is kinda tough to tie down. As it slips kind easily. I used deer hair for trout flies before , but never buck tail.
I learned you have to use heavy pressure on the thread to hold it down secuy. I used Danville 3/0 thread.
On the smaller sized jigs its a little tough as the hair fibers are differant lengths and on a smaller sized jig your dealing with a much shorter piece of hair in your hand. I think the walleye bucktails will be much easier to tie.
I also tied some using grey and fox squirrel. It was much easier for me to work with on the small jigs.
I love a hair jig, my favorite is a 3/32oz with a #6 hook burnt orange head with black eyes yellow craft fur with chartreus crystal flash with a lime thread neck. It is my favorite casting jig have not tried vertical fishing with it yet.
I've had my best luck with pink/white hair jigs. Brown/orange works too, but the stinking smallmouths don't leave 'em alone!
I like summer bucktails for small jigs. Winter bucktail has the big, hollow hairs, and they are more fragile. But they make for a slow sink on a small head, so worth considering, depending on how you fish.
Believe it or not, the long, tan hairs from my German Shepherd's tail make awesome "bucktail" jigs. For some reason, she doesn't like me following her around with a pair of scissors!
-TH
I'll try to walk you through it. Gather a bunch of the tail and cut it away from the skin. Holding it in one hand, pull the longest hairs out and lay them down. Do this several times, each time keeping the tips at the same place. Once you do this a few times, pick up the hair from the tip end and cut it to the length you need off the buut end. This solves the different length problem as best as I know how.
Pink, white, chartruese, grey, black, blue, orange and yellow
I use hair and bucktail jigs all the time, all year long. what is getting harder to find for me is replacements. especially when it comes to the hair that is used. I'm not a picky person, i would just like a little variety. which, like i said is harder to find. Most folks seem to use a stiffer fur/hair, which to me doesn't add much movement to it in the water (and in some situations is fine). The more fluffy fur/hair moves very well and almost fluid like which I really like, but its hard to find.
Mousey Grey every day
You can give the rest away
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An option on tails: If you deer hunt, know someone who does, or have a game processor close by....save the tails. You can bone it out, stretch it and tack to a board. Rub salt over the rawhide where you cut the tail bone out and you can gather up some nice tails. There are all kinds of videos showing how to dye them different colors, if you want. I'm kinda like Don G, in that gray comes really close to imitating common baitfish. If tied right, bucktails have a really good profile in the water. Good luck!
Haven't seen anyone talk about using any of the bear hairs, moose, mule deer - greyish color, elk, arctic fox (this can be dyed any color you want) - for what some of the small pieces go for tempted to buy a whole tanned skin, buffalo and bison, and for those looking for the 6-7 inch hair for big jigs Icelandic sheep hair, but it's softer than bucktail.
barlows has a good selection of deer tails to choose from
Something to think about, (craft hair ultra select). I use it for crappie jigs and small winter time bass jigs. it tends to hold up better after numerous bites where marabou usually is eaten off. Buck tail hair being oval is not always the easiest hair to tie, the follicles are slick and want to pull out from under thread unless you use some type of glue, just my .02 . I love all the different animal hair, bear, elk, even Buffalo just like how craft hair breaths in the water.
Thanks so much for the help guys this has became a very in formative thread for me. Thank you!
Lift agree with ya!! I don't think I'll run out anytime soon!!LOL Had a bunch and hit a good sale last time I was in Michigan at Cabela's. The center ones are Targus and it's good stuff but hard to find. Also have Darice craft fur and it works good too.
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Are the fibers in those all one length? And then you just cut it to the length desired?
I do it just a little different because I never put it down. I grab what I want to cut off and but, then I hold in one hand about where I want the length to be when finished and then I pinch the longest hairs and pull them out and placing them in my pinch of the rest and I do this several times until I get the look I want. Your way is really the same, but I just didn't want to deal with having to pinch the bunch again. I do adjust the new ones into the old after each move with with the pulling and replacing back in. It;s kind of a pain, but worth it in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
Also use a few kind of loose wraps to innately hold the hair in place and I try to keep one of the less tight (out at end of wraps) wraps to help control the flair. Also I love using Danville 210 Denier Flat Waxed most of all, but do use some small thread if I need a color they don't make in the 210 stuff. I do also really like the Ultra Thread in 140 denier and their 210 is good too. I do not care for Uni-Thread much, but do use a couple colors in their 6/0 because I don't see them any place else. I do believe their is a place for the Uni though, maybe good on tying on barbell eyes on a fly hook is best?? Since I am basically heavy handed I do break them all, but not so much the 210 stuff and one reason I like it so much, plus I love how I can cinch it up some after the whip finish is done. I do hate that when doing a thread neck which is what we are talking about here is that if you break it at the finish, it will not stay like it will if tying chenille jigs.
the select craft hair have three lengths of hairs I shuck the hair separate the longer ones from the middle lengths and don't usually dont use the shorter fury partsQuote:
Originally Posted by Smoltz
x2 but I'll keep the fury parts and mix em up with the coffee grinder for different color dubbings.