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Headed back to Jordan first thing this morning........along with everyone else it seemed. I was on the water by 7, fishing by 7:30 and on the way to the ramp at 9:30 with a limit of nice fish. The overall size was down just a little from yesterday but still managed one over 14". I was surprized how much the fish had moved overnight as far as the depth the bigger fish were holding at. Got the chance to meet Crappietuttle this morning and Slowtroll at the dock as I was leaving. I'm sure there were other CDC folks that I missed as well. I hadn't given much thought to a post Cheif had made a few days ago until I witnessed it this morning......Guys on one side of the pillings fishing across on the other side right on top of another boat and guys casting across only for their bait to fall back vertical directly beside their boat?? I guess to them it made sense???

What can all you guys be doing with limits of fish kept day after day after day. I like eating fish but dang. Didn't this lake have this same issue a few years ago where everybody kept keeping all the fish from this same area? I love reading about and catching fish. but all these post about all these fish being caught by all these boats don't seem right. Yes this site is about sharing information about catching fish but not about wiping them out. Seems more like fishing in a barrel, not my idea of fun. Just my 2 cents worth.

I don't think there has been any connection of the crappie decline to people over fishing. I have never met a fisherman who has said he would have more fun not catching anything.
Just my 2 cents.:cheers2

Roy, people down here in NC just so happen to like cleaning fish more than they do catching them. Eating lots of these Jordan crappie also leads to short term memory loss. But hey, there having fun NOW. That's all that matters!

Great day on the water! Man them will eat just fine!

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Originally Posted by Roy

What can all you guys be doing with limits of fish kept day after day after day. I like eating fish but dang. Didn't this lake have this same issue a few years ago where everybody kept keeping all the fish from this same area? I love reading about and catching fish. but all these post about all these fish being caught by all these boats don't seem right. Yes this site is about sharing information about catching fish but not about wiping them out. Seems more like fishing in a barrel, not my idea of fun. Just my 2 cents worth.

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What can I be doing with limits of fish day after day after day?? For starters, I've fished this lake about 8 times this year and only kept fish 3 times. My crappie fishing is also limitted to only a couple of months a year. Of the 40 fish I took home yesterday and today, they were divided up between my two grandmothers, my parents and myself. The fish I've caught also aren't coming from the "same" area, I fish many different areas and many different boddies of water.
Fishing in a barrel??...It's really not that "easy". Over half the boats in the area today weren't catching anything. So all these boats aren't taking home limits of fish..Very few of us are.
Hope I've cleared up some of your concerns here. I can't speak for everyone else but can and will speak for myself. And I'll ask that next time you have questions or concerns to create a new posting addressing those and not highjack my posting unless your concern is with me, then I welcome a PM.

Removing Crappie from the lake is healthy for the remaining fish. There is only so much food available to produce "slabs' that can lay as many as 6,000 eggs in the Spring. Take them out the remaining population is that much healthier!

Monk

There was a major crappie kill on the lake four years ago because of a major die-off of shad that resulted from extremely cold water that Winter. Many of the Crappie.com guys you read posting on here met with myself and the NC Wildllife biologist the past two years. Nature caused the shad to die and then many of the crappie starved to death the next Summer. The biologist stated they are not at all concerned about fishermen taking a limit--they are just worried about water temperatures. The biologist have already done their testing this year and the crappie population is still improving. They usually net around a thousand crappie, so they have a good sample population. Right now the biologist advice is to stay the course.

Nice catch there.

Sorry I ruffled your feathers. Just stating my opinion, that's what a forum is for. Just reading report after report of limit after limit caused my concern. Have seen too many good fishing lakes decline over the years. By the time the government or state guys react it's usually too late.

Educate yourself on the facts first and then you can express your opinion.

Woot Woot!! Fish on!

I would add that more than likely, a majority of those boats are not catching their limit. Brhunt, and people like the Chief and Slowtroll, are excellent fishermen with a lot of experience on Jordan. I know a couple of guys that went yesterday and only caught 13 keepers all day. They are the ones that come out when the fishing gets good and someone gives them a call or they read the reports on this website.

Many factors to consider. What you see here is a small percentage of what is on the lake. BR said it right about most people not having the good luck that a few have. The state said 20 fish 10in. or more. I say catch all you can USE up to that limit. It is the people that break that law and catch many more of all sizes and let them go bad because they are too tired to clean them that need to be yelled at. Also remember that the days that they bite the best are far outnumbered by the bad days due to weather and wind. Obey the law, catch what you can eat and eat what you catch. We will have plenty and if nature kills them off we will wait three years again. My 2 cents plus. If you see SEA DANER please say "hello". If you see my marker, fish around it. Lets enjoy the bounty we have been given.

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Originally Posted by Roy

What can all you guys be doing with limits of fish kept day after day after day. I like eating fish but dang. Didn't this lake have this same issue a few years ago where everybody kept keeping all the fish from this same area? I love reading about and catching fish. but all these post about all these fish being caught by all these boats don't seem right. Yes this site is about sharing information about catching fish but not about wiping them out. Seems more like fishing in a barrel, not my idea of fun. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Roy I eat fish twice a week. I also take filets to elderly friends who can't get out. I give a pack of filets to a woman who digs through garbage( I caught her in mine) every week on garbage day. I guess you could say I share.

Good report,BR. For the uninformed critic, I'd say you need to meet BR on the lake. He's always willing to share information with others. And he does know how to catch them.
Jordan is a crappie factory, subject to natural changes in fish classes as well as the cold water disaster we had a few years ago. Banding together and showing interest as a group helped WR officials introduce more TF Shad this year to a crappie population that was already recovering. Now, we have great fishing that lives up to the Jordan reputation. Enjoy it while you can. Next year, there will be fewer fish, but there will also be some real hogs.

Was talking with WRC biologist yesterday. He said that just about any kind of fish that is in Jordan does good. It is a fish growing machine.

Some body as opened up a can of worms. Just my 2cts

Yummy, Yummy!

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Some body as opened up a can of worms. Just my 2cts

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Minnows and jigs does better than worms! :)

I just wish they would implement some sort of limit on Harris like Jordan. It's amazing the difference between Jordan and Harris. Harris could become just as good as Jordan and take some of the fishing stress from Jordan.

Most guys here on this NC forum are responsible. Never kill more than they eat. I can vouch for Matt (BR HUNT). He's a stand up person and fisherman.

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Originally Posted by JordanLimit

There was a major crappie kill on the lake four years ago because of a major die-off of shad that resulted from extremely cold water that Winter. Many of the Crappie.com guys you read posting on here met with myself and the NC Wildllife biologist the past two years. Nature caused the shad to die and then many of the crappie starved to death the next Summer. The biologist stated they are not at all concerned about fishermen taking a limit--they are just worried about water temperatures. The biologist have already done their testing this year and the crappie population is still improving. They usually net around a thousand crappie, so they have a good sample population. Right now the biologist advice is to stay the course.

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JordanLimit: During your past talks with the officials did they happen to mention what may have caused the collapse at Harris? I remember Harris being the winter spot but don't hear much anymore.

I personally think Harris has been beat down with people taking coolers full of fish from that lake. I have been at the ramp on more than one occasion and watched these guys unload coolers that were packed to the top. Usually 5-7" fish. Since there's no size limit or creel limit it's a catch all you can fishery. I've only lived here for 14 years and I can see a big difference at both lakes. One good and one bad.

Chuckles.. I was out there sunday an kept my limit of 6. as thats all i neededrotfl

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Originally Posted by Roy

Sorry I ruffled your feathers. Just stating my opinion, that's what a forum is for. Just reading report after report of limit after limit caused my concern. Have seen too many good fishing lakes decline over the years. By the time the government or state guys react it's usually too late.

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You're correct....that is what a forum is for. However, when you reply to MY post with those types of comments, it's a personal attack on me and the way I fish, my morals and my ethics, which is why I suggested you start your own thread on the topic. Your concerns are valid as well as your opinion, just better ways to share them than you've selected. I'll leave it at that.


I'd like to thank the rest of my CDC brothers for the kind words! A lot of you guys are the reason I'm the fisherman I am, and I try to pass along what I can. Now lets not continue to beat this dead horse and go catch some some fish!

BR Hunt,
First let me apologize to you if you felt that my post was directed at you, that was not my intention. For that sir I apologize. I'm just a concerned fisherman who has been reading these post for the past several weeks of everyone posting keeping limit after limit. For every one that post I bet there are 10 who don't and are catching limits as well. Contrary to what some on here may believe I am an informed sportsman. My favorite lake to fish is Buggs Island (Kerr) which is in both VA and NC. This lake is still a very good fishery but nothing like it used to be. Several factors for sure but coolers full of fish taken out by allot of people each spring needs to be considered. Same thing in this situation where the fish have grouped up in their winter home. Yes crappie produce allot of eggs but I believe anyone who thinks you cannot over fish them needs to be better informed themselves. Enjoy the resource and be responsible. Best of luck to all.

As to the question about Harris--the Wildlife biologist that covers Jordan does not cover Harris. In talking to others, they say the Wildlife guys encourage to keep all you can on Harris because it is overpopulated. That was 2-3 years ago and may not be the same situation as now. I know we had a crappie tournament scheduled for Harris last year and ended up moving it to Jordan. Maybe now that Jordan has rebounded, it will take some pressure off of Harris and the population will recover. If I get any kind of informaiton I will pass it along.

I agree with you Roy about overfishing. Seems like people today share way to much info. The best fishermen I know are also some of the best liars I know. I got two people who I share info with and its mutually understood to keep hush about it. Most fisherman these days seem to have to advertise their fish.

Based on what I saw at the bridge this week and over the years, the majority of folks probably weren't taking home limits unless they stayed all day. There were a good many shorts and there were a lot of boats doing more fishing than catching. Subtle nuances can make a difference.

someone please explain to me why anyone who is such a good fisherman and sportsman would even come to such a forum as this without seeking some kind of advice or help? Is it just to stir the pot? I would like to think not. most of ALL the CDC folks have met are great folks. when I first moved here I was frustrated because my techniques from my home state didn't work. CDC put me on fish. I am happy to share what little I know with whomever needs or wants help. If you think that is wrong then maybe I am incorrect about what CDC stands for. :(

have to agree with chief on this one would like to see the really big toads next spring state says you can keep 20 per day if you want to practice catch and release thats ok do that most of the time but i do keep some also as for harris it was on the same level as jordon if not better fished that lake a lot caught several very large fish over the years 2013 the lake got slammed have only fished it a couple times this year fish were either big or just small the state is not going to do any limits talked to them the last time i was there they told me the lake was in good shape i guess they think eight inch fish are fine as far as jordon well lets hope we have a mild winter and the shad do ok

Lots of 8" fish mean lots of larger fish later too unless food is a limiting factor. Looking at the depthfinder when I've been at Harris there is plenty of bait.

And I agree there are lots of good folks on here.

bait is not a problem on harris for sure like to fish that lake in the winter so we shall see kinda hard to leave jordon been a great fall season

I have fished Harris much more than Jordan. Jordan had a fish kill and Harris picked up a lot of Jordan crappie fishermen. I feel that in the past three years Harris has been overfished and no one cares because it is a "BASS LAKE". I have nothing against bass fishermen but they don't want the crappie eating the shad. It will be hard fight to get limits on crappie in Harris. Politics is money and bass fishermen spend a lot more money than crappie fisherman as a general rule. I think the pressure will decrease on Harris now that Jordan is improving. My 2 cents.

Well maybe the fishing will continue to improve think in a year or so we will know for sure. As for myself headed to harris after the holidays so merry christmas and a happy new year!

LOCK THIS THREAD UP!!!!

Mod should lock this thread up, it's officially hijacked. Sorry BR, but great pics and report. Sucks about your thread going awry.

WTF