OUCH!!! Ticked off pier owner......

Found a good honey hole with some good structure on it close to a guys pier. We came up on it today to fish it and he came stomping out on the pier. He came to the corner we were on and started to cast towards us , staring us down. I didn't want a confrontation so I eased off and went elsewhere to fish.catching fifteen this afternoon eased the pain BUT the more I think about it this fellow does not own the lake. When peeps fish my pier I go out to greet them and see how they are doing. What are y'all's thoughts about this Matter?

You are 100 % correct. His pier and everything around it is actually the property of Ala. Power if I am correct. This has been a problem in many places around the country. I think you did the best thing by doing exactly what you did. This person must be bitter inside and has no joy in his life. Glad you were able to catch some fish in spite of what happened.

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It never ceases to amaze what types of personalities you might encounter day to day. You did the right thing not forcing a confrontation...
but I know you wished you had spoken your mind about his stupid and childish behavior.

we were fishing boat slips when this idiot started running up and down the pier yelling we were trespassing. We just kept on fishing moving slowly away while he kept on cussing and jumping around. I told the man finally hey I will pull to the bank and you can have all you want THEN another person walked up and told the guy to leave. Is it turned out the guy yelling and cussing did not have permission to be there. AllReds marina I believe what it's called?

Gotta build your own lake if you wanna act like that!

Some folks just have no life. On the flip side of that, there are some of our nit-wit brothers that don't show a lot of respect for some pier owners.

Allreds is the worst..... I gotta find the screenshot on my phone but I saw a post somewhere that stated Bama law that ...I'm paraphrasing... Said that no one can impede a fisherman or hunter w signage or harassment as long as they're on public waters/land within the requirements of the law. The biggest probs ive heard about alreds is when dude in the boat gets out to confront the idiot.... That's when the idiot on the bank gets ya.

I grew up commercial inshore fishing and have seen my share of people who think they own the waters, the waters edge and even anything in front of their homes,,, We used to have some folks that would even threaten folks with guns if they'd fish their clams beds in front of their million dollar homes .... no one owns the waterline or even anything close to it,,, If anyone ever does that again, I suggest you get the law involved to straighten this guy out,,k If he bullies one person, He'll try and do it to everyone,,,

Bama S i admire your actions. Some folks might be inclined to at least pursue the confrontation and that could get ugly. Depending on how the fish are biting or my mood some folks might be me.

K you are so right,the world is full of diferent folks good and bad.we encountered a guy one morning under a brigde in guntersville,he was on the bank and let us know right quick he was fishing that spot,oh did i mention he was on the other side of the pilon,and couldn't even see us.our fishing didnt interfer with him at all.dock owners do not own the water.

I deal with this a lot. Fishing Smith at night, you win some you lose some. I take into consideration that people pay a lot of money for the submersible lights and lots of them leave stuff on their docs, floats,rods,nets,ect.....
If they don't want me to fish it, I move on. I usually try to spark up conversation and just let them know I'm trying to catch mama some supper....lol. Most are really friendly and will come down and visit once they know its you. Others will turn the light off when they see you pull up. I've heard stories of warning shots across the bow. I always try to be respectable.

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I deal with this a lot. Fishing Smith at night, you win some you lose some. I take into consideration that people pay a lot of money for the submersible lights and lots of them leave stuff on their docs, floats,rods,nets,ect.....
If they don't want me to fish it, I move on. I usually try to spark up conversation and just let them know I'm trying to catch mama some supper....lol. Most are really friendly and will come down and visit once they know its you. Others will turn the light off when they see you pull up. I've heard stories of warning shots across the bow. I always try to be respectable.

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Good point, we have about 80 grand in my pier,lights and structure around it. It adds up in a hurry.

You did the right thing . But it would be nice to put people like that in there place.

If you fish docks you will run into this, Have been cussed, yelled at, rocks thrown at, even sprayed with a water hose. One guy had motion sensors set up and when you got close to his pier sprinklers would come on, marine police made him take them down. If some one is fishing their dock, I fish elsewhere, if they come out to fish while i'm there, I leave. If they start cussin and fussin, I show them some slabs out of the livewell I just caught off their pier, but I still leave, not worth a confrontation. but I still go back when ever I want.
If someone comes out and starts talking nice I ALWAYS offer them some fish, This seems to make you welcome back 100% of the time. But always remember, they is gonna be butt holes EVERYWHERE you go.

You did the correct thing and better for it.

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Allreds is the worst..... I gotta find the screenshot on my phone but I saw a post somewhere that stated Bama law that ...I'm paraphrasing... Said that no one can impede a fisherman or hunter w signage or harassment as long as they're on public waters/land within the requirements of the law. The biggest probs ive heard about alreds is when dude in the boat gets out to confront the idiot.... That's when the idiot on the bank gets ya.

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Thanks to the voters that voted and passed the hunting and fishing amendment on Nov 4. which gives protection to the hunters and fishermen(and ladies) it is now illegal to harass or otherwise impede a person hunting or fishing legally.Also I was told by a conservation officer that the people own the land but the water is a public resource which is owned by the citizens of the state.

You did right Bama, i often talk to folks fishing our lights all have been very nice asking if i mind and i don,t heck i fish other peoples lights .The water at martin below 490 is for anyone wish you good fishing.

we have a city owned lake here that has million dollar homes on it and you cant fish within I think it is 100 feet of their docks or shoreline., some dont care, some do. Depends are where you are as to what the laws are.

OK now for the reverse of this. IF you are the first person to arrive at a bridge on the bank to fish and have been fishing at least 30 mins by yourself or with a friend and a boat comes up and pulls right in front of where you are fishing and ties up ,what is the rule, or what do you do.??? My contention is that you should respect the person that beat you to the fishing area on the bank or not and either tie up so they can still fish the spot or go to another area .If i am in a boat I will not get in the way of a bank fisherman if hes already there. .I also run into the same problem fishing below gville dam. I will sometimes get to a place in the dark and fish till the morning. I have had boats come and anchor between me on the bank and to where i am casting my minnow.If when i get there and a boat is already there I DO not fish anywhere near him but move to another place i can watch them and wait for them to leave.It aint been pretty at times when i have been the first one there and they run in between me.I have been told the standard I dont own the river comment numerous times.

As a pier, lakefront property owner let me say that when someone fishes my dock / condos that I have put there it irritates me BUT I try to remember to thank the good lord for how he has blessed me and allowed me to temporarily posses what is infinitely His.

BAMA you did the right thing. I guess you could have tried to have a conversation with the guy just to say hi. I really like jusanothajoe's idea of offerring the folks some fish if you've pulled a few off the place.

If i am right there is a federal laww called the waterways rights act that gives all waterways public access to the last known high water mark. Here on lake michigan condo owners complained that the lake was going to flood their condos and the wanted the goverment to do something to save their condos,so when the greatlakes receeded they wanted lawenforcment to kick off their property {beach front} but couldnt due to this act. I believe you can get a coppy thru the US CoastGuard. Dave

Also if you are within your rights and laws, film him with your cellphoe and call the law and press charges. Esspecilly if they thro rocks or shoot water at you. If i had small children or someone got hit i would not leave but force him to be arrested. we as sportsmen have rights and need to some times stick up for ourselve instead of being the passifist. yes it sucks but if it getts into the news the next person might think twice before being that moron. Dave

Like I told this guy over on Rosberry were he built his half million dollar home YOU don't own water rights.My granddad, Dad and I have fished that area for 50 plus years and we still will ,so you move on buddy.

I see it no different than when someone takes the time to build brush piles or structure just to come out and find someone already there. It is after all public waters.

I think you did the right thing. This one dock I fish , the owner usually comes out and talks to my wife and i , last time we were there he ask us not fish around his dock. This was because someone broke the light off his boat. I understood and moved on.