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Here's the scenario: I'm not very experienced at sacalait fishing, and I'm fishing mostly from a seated position in a kayak. When I set my popping cork to any depth over 5 foot it becomes hard to cast for obvious reasons like the line getting wrapped and tangled from the slack. I'm familiar with slip corks, but I've never tried it. Any other suggestions that would make casting while seated easier when fishing this deep?
Try ditching the cork and use a jig. You might have to put some weight on your line to help you cast farther. You could also use a jig pole and fish vertically. I've never fished from a yak but I'd think that you could get really close to trees, stumps, boat docks and anything else that holds fish.
You gotta learn to use a slip cork setup...really easy. I use that now no matter what depth I'm fishing. added benefit other that ease of casting is that it also lets the bait drop straight down, and if you pull it in fast it will come straight up to the bobber before moving horizontally which helps keep you from getting hung in the brush. Hope this helps.
He's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Progator135
slip cork is the way to go.....here is a link to the "bobber (cork) stopper" a lot of folks use.......I tried them all and fell in love with this one.....
Bass Pro Shops® Bobber Stops | Bass Pro Shops
simply thread your line thru one of the tiny wire loops and slide the small rubber stop and bead on your line.....this will leave a kink in your line and you need to cut that part off.....next, slide on a slip cork made for this (it will be free to slide on the line)......last, tie on your jig (or shiner set up), however you are fishing......so, from bottom to top, you have a jig, slip cork, plastic bead and a bobber stopper.....
i just left bass pro before you posted this and bought 2 different types of slip corks. I didn't get any of those you listed tho, so I wish I woulda read this before walking out. Similar set up thoQuote:
Originally Posted by prefers shiners
thanks for all the advice! I'll try it out this weekend
Prefers Shiners, how do those stops do with spinning reels? I have only used the string type stops. Looked at those many times and would certainly be simpler to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by prefers shiners
I use these bobber stops too exclusively. they work fine with spinning reels. the ONLY thing I have ever come across with these is if you catch a huge crappie (or catfish) and you are fishing deeper than your rod is long that when the stopper gets to the eye on the tip of your rod, with a big fish and a lot of weight on the line the bobber stop might slide down the line instead of jumping over the eye on the rod tip. did that make any sense?????
here is the absolute best slip bobber I have ever found. I have about 20 of each color and several different sizes. yall check this out. it is called the everlasting slip bobber and they are tough. The Everlasting Slip Bobber - the world's finest slip bobber!
doc :)
use these once and you will throw away all those string ties.....as Docwaldo said, you have to check every now & then and make sure the stopper did not move.....a minor issue but still the best stopper out there....you can understand that moving the stopper often will cause wear on the inside of the stopper and make the stopper more likely to move accidently.....I find that before I move my stopper, I dip my pole and line in the water and the water on the line eliminates a lot of the friction which causes the wear....Quote:
Originally Posted by huntinslabs
I think the answer you wanted is, yes, you can cast these with a spinning reel......
I agree with Bruce (prefers shiners) , that's all I use. Like Mark (doc) said, they will slip on bigger fish - but I just readjust it. They hold well on braid. I use them as well when fishing really deep without the slip cork just as a depth indicator.
Perfect! Thanks guys!
Yeah. Those are the cats meow. Will restock with those next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by docwaldo
Totally agree with you guys, the first time I ever saw those rubber bobber stops was in my neighbors garage, he was pegging a worm weight with them ( for bass fishing). He told me who would have ever thought a crappie bobber stop would be the best worm weight peg they make (by the way they do work perfect for that). I went straight to bass pro and picked some up, now I couldn't fish a slip cork without them.
FYI, I like these bobbers or corks as we call em.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishervet
The #2 size works great for 1/32 and 1/16 jigs, and using added small shot to stop cork from slamming jig.
The #3 size is what I like for a big ol shiner with a #1 shot.
The #1 size is useless in my opinion.
Never use green cork when fishing around lily pads and green slop.
BTW, these are opinions only. I never said I caught anything using these cork thingys.
I agree with all above said about slip corks etc. If I fish deep regardless if it's with jigs only or shiners, I fish without any cork. In fact, I will use a cork chiefly when I am fishing in 3 feet or less. I know probably some of you say I am probably missing out on hooking some fish without a cork, but I think it's better to learn the feel of the bite fishing deeper by tightlining without a cork.
Plus you're at an advantage already by fishing from a kayak. There's less profile and disturbance on the water. Many many anglers are catching more fish when in a kayak. It's kind of like wading too since you do a better job in covering water more thoroughly.
That's just my <2-cents worth. But everything above I agree with and have tried.
Well said. An enjoyment I have though is watching the cork go down when I get the catch to be out on the water.
I just ordered 6 of these in 3 different sizes. I'm guessing I'll still need a stopper, right? If so, it looks like the best thing would be to use those rubber ones that I have yet to buy. Again, thanks for all the adviceQuote:
Originally Posted by docwaldo
You'll be good for about 18 years if ya dont lose em all first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yak a lait
I got one I been chunkin going on 3rd year.
You can go to harbor freight and get a pack of 200 aluminum rivets for about two bucks they fit very snugly into the 99 cent Walmart special corks
Thanks for the support, folks. If anyone has any questions, let me know. In my humble opinion, slip bobbers would be a great way to fish deep from a kayak.
Thanks for stopping by Leroy to the Louisiana forum. I love using slip corks and have always used Thill for some reason. I will definitely look into your products.
I use the rubber stops also. I've never had to fool with the bead though, the bobber stop works fine by itself on all the slip corks I've tried. I have a question for you guys using the Everlasting Bobbers. I ordered several of them and I agree they work well, but I have a devil of a time threading 4 or 6 lb. line through them. There is just enough lip on the inside of the bobber tube that the line hangs up and I have to twist and cuss and fiddle with it before it will ever go through.
Best method I've found is to use a dental floss threader to fish the line through. http://pics1.ds-static.com/prodimg/15476/300.jpg
How do y'all do it??
SeaRay
one thing about the stops on the wire, if your using a rod with small eyes it will hang up in the eyes. other than that they work great!!!
I use 6 lb. frequently myself, Searay. For mono or fluoro lines, roll the line between your thumb and forefinger as you push it through the brass. This usually pops it right through. For braid, a threader is advised - either a GUM or one you make yourself out of 8 lb. mono with a loop knot.
This, by the way, is what's commonly called a "known issue". I actually DO flare the brass inside the tube, both to minimize the threading effect and to ensure a tight fit. It's a very good illustration that if mono can catch on something, it will. I use my own product for 90% of my fishing, for a variety of species and conditions, and I think the performance is well worth the trouble.
Hey, green shiner, do you think the #1 size would work well for bream fishing? When bream fishing I normally use a cricket hook, swivel, and small split shot, which all would probably weigh less than 1/16 oz.Quote:
Originally Posted by green shiner