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Looking to purchase a 12" soon soon, doubling the value of my boat! So you will understand that I am trying to avoid all the buyers remorse that I can. Any rumors out there that Lowrance will soon introduce a Gen 3 Model? Cause when they do the Gen 2 will drop in price quickly of course, which could end up saving my marriage!
," which could end up saving my marriage!"
I understand that!!!
I'd say if they do come out with a gen 3 it'll be announced in December and they'll be available after the first of the year. The RUMORS that I've read are saying CHIRP will be standard.
I am hearing the same about CHIRP and that it won't be cheap. Thanks for your help. Go Louisville! Been a fan since they were in the MVC with Tulsa back in the day of Wes Unseld.
I heard they are hitting the streets 2nd week of November.
GO CAT'S!!!!!!!
Just had too lol...........
I ain't really mastered Gen 1 yet.
"rumor" from one of the board sponsors on THE HULL TRUTH forum
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"You will also see some Lowrance HDS news coming out on November 17th. with price reductions as well"
1. Gen 3 releases in December
2. Touch units reduced to pricing of keypad units
3. New units will be both keypad and touch
4. Chirp built in
5. Wifi
6. Bluetooth
7. Faster processor
Uh oh. I just told my son in law to pull the trigger on a new Gen 2. Thanks for this information rumor! I will see if I can head him off from 9000 miles away where I am living in the Philippines til February.
Thanks Hawk- marital crises averted- son in law has not purchased the unit yet so we will delay the big purchase until at least November 17 and see if the old fashioned Gen 2's go bargain basement. Maybe we can pick one up at the dDollar Store!
LOL my wife is still shaking her head at the cost of my Lowrance set up :) I do remember telling her that for everything to work just right I "had" to have two units :scratchhead :highfive
Seems obvious to me Stump. I'm sure she fell right in line........
check the Gander Mountain website. they have some Gen3 already posted with pricing no less.
Product Description
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086...rtons/lowrance The all new Gen3 Lowrance High Definition System (HDS) combines a brighter, multi-touch display and an enhanced processor with leading-edge fishfinder technologies, including CHIRP Sonar, Broadband Sounder, DownScan Imaging, and Trackback view. The Lowrance Gen3 Series utilizes the latest advances in navigation and user interface, incorporating an internal 10Hz GPS, dual microSD card slots, touch-plus-keypad operation, and built-in wireless connectivity, all in one easy-to-use display.
Simple-To-Use Lowrance Interface
The HDS Gen3 Series features an easy-to-see, LED-backlit, widescreen display that provides both multi-touch, touchscreen, and keypad options for lightning fast, fingertip access to all HDS features. Quickly make adjustments with an enhanced, faster processor and intuitive user-interface features like scrolling menus, cursor assist, snap-to-setting markers, and preview panes with quick-touch slider bars. Stay connected with integrated wireless connectivity. With the Lowrance GoFree App you can view and control select HDS Gen3 displays wirelessly using supported tablets or smartphones. Features a single ethernet networking port and Micro-C connection for NMEA 2000 devices.
Latest Advances in Navigation
The internal GPS antenna with 10Hz position update rate provides ultra-accurate trails, smoother chart performance, and maximum position accuracy. It supports WAAS/EGNOS/MSAS corrections. The HDS Gen3 includes built-in Insight USA charts for Coastal and Inland US waters and a world background reference map. Dual microSD-card slots let you upgrade to the most expansive selection of compatible cartography on the market, including Insight, Navionics, C-Map, and more. HDS Gen3 models are also compatible with the online Insight Genesis map-creation service, which allows users to make custom, high-resolution contour maps from recorded sonar logs, including bottom-hardness and vegetation overlays.
You can also view two charts simultaneously, in 2D or 3D perspective view, with independent control, range, and overlay capabilities.
Leading-Edge Fishfinder Technologies
Dominate with greater sensitivity, improved target resolution, and superior noise rejection for clearer, easy-to-see bait fish and game fish targets. The single Lowrance Skimmer Transducer delivers CHIRP sonar performance, including the capabilities to produce low, medium, and high CHIRP sonar ranges, as well as 83/200 kHz Broadband Sounder frequencies. The award-winning Broadband Sounder allows you to display and mark game fish, baitfish, and structures at higher speeds and at greater depths down to 1000'.
DownScan Overlay technology overlays DownScan Imaging onto CHIRP or Broadband Sonar. TrackBack lets you scroll back through sonar imaging history to review structure or fish targets and pinpoint the location with a waypoint.
Thank you Hawk. I will check this out.
Hawk. I never found pricing on Gander Mountain but that's ok since what I really want is a less expensive Gen 2 big screen- or two! Should happen soon hopefully.
Yes Gander Mountain pulled it but it was on there long enough to get the internet chat going. Still no "official word" from Lowrance as far as I have read..Quote:
Originally Posted by Crappie ciller
Am with you, the current Gen2 touch units do all I would ever want (and more!). These will have to break before I consider anything new.
I would give Brian at BBG Marine a call. He is on top of the technology and would know if and when the Gen 2s will go on sale. He is a CDC sponsor and great guy to work with. I have bought several items from him. His prices are as good and usually better than the big box stores.
:he said, Call Brian.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaRay
yep that B true
At one time we thought Nov. 17 might be the intro date for the Gen 3 Lawrance. I will check with Brian, who is very responsive to queries but maybe you guys are in the know. Thanks for the responses I have received thus far.
George,
Thank you for your email. A reply has been sent.
I can't really comment on the boards about upcoming products that Lowrance hasn't released any details on yet, but I would guess sometime around the end of this year or the first part of next year we will have all the information and prices we need.
One things for sure...when they are available to dealers, we will have plenty to sell and our prices will be competitive !
Brian
Thank you Brian- you were really quick to respond as always. Guess I will continue to pretend to be patient for a couple more months. I return to the water after an 18 month layoff in the Philippines on Feb. 5 so at that point I have to pull the trigger sale or no sale! Been married for 39 years so there is a good chance she won't leave me over one little electronics purchase.
Sorry for the long read but thought some of you would like to know. ETA date has yet to be announced......
2015 Lowrance HDS Gen3 and other models.....
Part Number -----------------Title ---------------- Description ---------------MSRP - MAP-------------
- 000-11798-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 3399.00
- 000-11796-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 3249.00
- 000-11795-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 3199.00
- 000-11794-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 3149.00
- 000-11793-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 2299.00
- 000-11791-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 2149.00
- 000-11790-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 2099.00
- 000-11789-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 2049.00
- 000-11788-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 1499.00
- 000-11786-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 1349.00
- 000-11785-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 1299.00
- 000-11784-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 1249.00
- 000-12175-001 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD NO XDCR ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD NO XDCR 1299.00
- 000-12178-001 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD 50/200 455/800 1499.00
- 000-12179-001 ELITE-9 BASE COMBO NO XDCR ELITE-9 BASE COMBO NO XDCR 1199.00
- 000-12182-001 ELITE-9X FISHFINDER NO XDCR ELITE-9X FISHFINDER NO XDCR 999.00
- 000-12177-001 ELITE-9 COMBO,BOAT BUILDER 6 PK,NO XDCR ELITE-9 COMBO,BOAT BUILDER 6 PK,NO XDCR
- 000-12184-001 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1099.00
- 000-12181-001 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1299.00
- 000-12176-001 ELITE-9 CMB GLD W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9 CMB GLD W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1399.00
- 000-12183-001 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 1199.00
- 000-12180-001 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 1399.00
- 000-11176-001 ELITE-5M HD CHARTPLOTTER GOLD ELITE-5M HD CHARTPLOTTER GOLD
- 000-11293-001 ELITE-4M HD CHARTPLOTTER ELITE-4M HD CHARTPLOTTER
- 000-11294-001 ELITE-4M HD CHARTPLOTTER GOLD ELITE-4M HD CHARTPLOTTER GOLD
- 000-11823-001 MARK-4 CHIRP 83/200 MARK-4 CHIRP 83/200
- 000-11826-001 MARK-4 CHIRP NO XDCR MARK-4 CHIRP NO XDCR
- 000-11824-001 MARK-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 MARK-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 229.00
- 000-11827-001 MARK-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 MARK-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800
Here is some information on the HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT........
Product Description
The all new Gen3 Lowrance High Definition System (HDS) combines a brighter, multi-touch display and an enhanced processor with leading-edge fishfinder technologies, including CHIRP Sonar, Broadband Sounder, DownScan Imaging, and Trackback view. The Lowrance Gen3 Series utilizes the latest advances in navigation and user interface, incorporating an internal 10Hz GPS, dual microSD card slots, touch-plus-keypad operation, and built-in wireless connectivity, all in one easy-to-use display.
Simple-To-Use Lowrance Interface
The HDS Gen3 Series features an easy-to-see, LED-backlit, widescreen display that provides both multi-touch, touchscreen, and keypad options for lightning fast, fingertip access to all HDS features. Quickly make adjustments with an enhanced, faster processor and intuitive user-interface features like scrolling menus, cursor assist, snap-to-setting markers, and preview panes with quick-touch slider bars. Stay connected with integrated wireless connectivity. With the Lowrance GoFree App you can view and control select HDS Gen3 displays wirelessly using supported tablets or smartphones. Features a single ethernet networking port and Micro-C connection for NMEA 2000 devices.
Latest Advances in Navigation
The internal GPS antenna with 10Hz position update rate provides ultra-accurate trails, smoother chart performance, and maximum position accuracy. It supports WAAS/EGNOS/MSAS corrections. The HDS Gen3 includes built-in Insight USA charts for Coastal and Inland US waters and a world background reference map. Dual microSD-card slots let you upgrade to the most expansive selection of compatible cartography on the market, including Insight, Navionics, C-Map, and more. HDS Gen3 models are also compatible with the online Insight Genesis map-creation service, which allows users to make custom, high-resolution contour maps from recorded sonar logs, including bottom-hardness and vegetation overlays.
You can also view two charts simultaneously, in 2D or 3D perspective view, with independent control, range, and overlay capabilities.
Leading-Edge Fishfinder Technologies
Dominate with greater sensitivity, improved target resolution, and superior noise rejection for clearer, easy-to-see bait fish and game fish targets. The single Lowrance Skimmer Transducer delivers CHIRP sonar performance, including the capabilities to produce low, medium, and high CHIRP sonar ranges, as well as 83/200 kHz Broadband Sounder frequencies. The award-winning Broadband Sounder allows you to display and mark game fish, baitfish, and structures at higher speeds and at greater depths down to 1000'.
DownScan Overlay technology overlays DownScan Imaging onto CHIRP or Broadband Sonar. TrackBack lets you scroll back through sonar imaging history to review structure or fish targets and pinpoint the location with a waypoint.
Specifications
• Display Size: 12" Widescreen (16:9)
• Display: WVGA Color TFT LCD
• Resolution: 1280 x 800
• Power Output: 500W RMS
• Warranty: Two Years
• Frequencies: 83/200 kHz
• Max Depth: 1000'
• Connections: NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000
• Waterproof Rating: IPx7
Specifications
Model HDS-12 Gen3
12" Display
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wondering if the 10Hz gps is the point1. that would be nice if they have it incorporated into the unit...
The internal antenna is not the point 1 but does have the same 10 Khz frequency.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifter106
Having the option to place your receiver close to your transudcer (like the Point 1) is an advantage. Your waypoints will be more accurate. However, the 10 KHZ internal will be a very high performance receiver.
Prior to GEN3, you could not use the 10 Khz frequency even with the Point 1. Since these GEN3 units have a more powerful processor, now you will be able to use the full capabilities of the 10 khz receiver.
Brian
so by that your saying my point1 (connected to my hds 8 gen2 via nmea 2000) is not utilizing 10 hz. I was under the impression gen 2's would give you 10hz and the gen1 would only do 5hz. Whatever it is putting out it does a "night and day" difference that my lgc 4000 did. I know that is a direction reflection on the compass heading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian@BBGmarine
The GEN2's were out on the market a long time before the 2.1 software update was released that allowed them to run a 5 X per second refresh rate. To my knowledge , there hasn't been any updates since then that allow the 10 X per second to match the Point 1' s capability.
The GEN3 should have that capability.
Brian
point1 with LCX update rate
ETA is showing sometime between now and April......Different models will trickle in.
Shoot me a PM if you would like the detailed description of any specific model (or ETA date if available)
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000-11798-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 3399.00
000-11796-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 3249.00
000-11795-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 3199.00
000-11794-001 HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-12 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 3149.00
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000-11793-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 2299.00
000-11791-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 2149.00
000-11790-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 2099.00
000-11789-001 HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-9 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 2049.00
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000-11788-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200/LSS 1499.00
000-11786-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 50/200 1349.00
000-11785-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT 83/200 1299.00
000-11784-001 HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD HDS-7 GEN3 INSIGHT NOXD 1249.00
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000-12175-001 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD NO XDCR ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD NO XDCR 1299.00
000-12178-001 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO GOLD 50/200 455/800 1499.00
000-12179-001 ELITE-9 BASE COMBO NO XDCR ELITE-9 BASE COMBO NO XDCR 1199.00
000-12177-001 ELITE-9 COMBO,BOAT BUILDER 6 PK,NO XDCR ELITE-9 COMBO,BOAT BUILDER 6 PK,NO XDCR
000-12181-001 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1299.00
000-12176-001 ELITE-9 CMB GLD W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9 CMB GLD W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1399.00
000-12180-001 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9 COMBO BASE W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 1399.00
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000-12184-001 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 83/200 455/800 1099.00
000-12183-001 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 ELITE-9X FSHFNDR W/XDCR 50/200 455/800 1199.00
000-12182-001 ELITE-9X FISHFINDER NO XDCR ELITE-9X FISHFINDER NO XDCR 999.00
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00-011817-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ 329.00
000-11816-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 US CAN NAV+ 429.00
000-11812-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 ELITE-4 CHIRP 50/200 455/800 399.00
000-11808-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 ELITE-4 CHIRP 83/200 455/800 599.00
000-11815-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR US CAN NAV+ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR US CAN NAV+ 229.00
000-11810-001 ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR ELITE-4 CHIRP NO XDCR 249.00
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000-11820-001 ELITE-4X CHIRP 50/200 455/800 ELITE-4X CHIRP 50/200 455/800
000-11807-001 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200 455/800 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200 455/800
000-11806-001 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200 ELITE-4X CHIRP 83/200
There are a few other Elite 4 models available.....
Gen III writeup at Panbo ...
Panbo: The Marine Electronics Hub: Lowrance HDS Gen3, plus Elite CHIRP and SmartSteer two ways
Rickie
The Point 1 stops the screen from "jumping around" when you are approaching a wpt at near 0 speed. I have the Heading and Course extension turned on. I also have the ring lines turned on. The map orientation is heading up. If the boat moves, the course extension moves. Also if the drift is sideways to the heading, the trails show the movement of the boat. You can stay on a waypoint pretty good without a buoy. Takes practice. I can do it but I am out of practice.
Trails is set to time @ 1 sec intervals. 1 sec is screen refresh which is plenty fast since the mag compass detects the slightest movement from heading which is separate from screen refresh.
Having 2 extensions is cool. One is blue (heading) and the other is red (course).
I line the blue line up on the waypoint, then keep the red line close to the blue line and at as certain ring distant. I need practice. Keeping distance is easy since I installed a trolling motor aft that has remote control. I just can't remember where the remote is??? Billbob hid it.
Im installing one now CP hope it helps. Just bought from BrianQuote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
If you try to stay a certain distant from a waypoint, you can use the Measure function. Just drop the measure point on the waypoint. If the boat strays from the waypoint, you will see the rule line move. Also, you can see the distance in the waypoint window display in the lower left corner (HDS7 touch). It is an estimated distance from waypoint. Just another use of an available tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilbur
I have been experimenting with this tool. It is cool. It is just another indicator for ground reference.
Try these things I mentioned when you have time to fool with them. They are not covered much in the manual (if any).
I doubt if these applications/uses will be covered with the GenIII either.
We need a Lowrance University.