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I have pouring pony head jigs for about three years now, I am having problems with the split rings staying open after I install the blade to the crane swivel. I have what I thought was a small pair of split ring pliers. Am I spreding the rings to far, is the pliers to big, or do I need a different split ring.
Thanks, Aaron
You need better quality split rings.
I agree with Kevin. None of my split rings stay apart.
I am getting ready to place an order from crazy angler, I will order some from him.
I agree with the above comments. Also if you have a friend that works in the medical field try and have them get you a pair of suture tweezers. They actually have jaws on them like a split ring plier. I have found that for me with the nerve damage that I have. They work a lot better than split ring pliers.
Bobo
For my horseheads and ponys I use the German split rings from Hagens. I use either a cheap pair of Worth split ring pliers and now I have a pair of the Texas Tackle split ring pliers and love them
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I'm having problems with the split ring staying separated too. It's also very difficult to split the ring then work it around the swivel and the spinner blade. I'm working with the pony head jig, size #0 split ring(from Do-It Molds) with the small Texas Tackle split ring pliers. Do ya'll use a fly tying vise or just hold the stuff in your hands? Will a better quality split ring be easier to work with or just not bend easily? I purchased one of the Ott magnifying lights and that helps a lot as far as seeing this tiny stuff but it's another thing to hold on to it and put it together. I hope you don't mind that I resurrect this thread. I appreciate any tips. Thanks.
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These are the ones I use from Jann's and they work great.....been using them long time. These are the small ones and I use special Knife that works great.
STAINLESS STEEL SPLIT RINGS 50 PACK, (2/0) Size 00 316900 $22.32 20 1 $22.32
Yep, these are the split ring pliers I'm using.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie53
litewirehooker, I'll give those split rings a try. Tell me more about the special knife you use and how you use it?
I found that making sure the rings I buy are Stainless. Got one batch that were not and they would stay open once I split them and installed. I also have trouble with them. Got Arthritis in my hands now and can't see. Got one of those good magnifying lights with florescent light. Bought a pair of small pliers from bass pro similar to the Texas tackle pliers. Ground the off side down to fit the small rings. I split the ring, the put the blade in starting the ring on the rounded side of blade from straight ahead of the hole, then work the ring around bending it open as little as possible. Then I install on the swivel. I do all this holding in my hand under magnifier. Tried in the vise and no go for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn54
Thanks cray. I will give your method a try. Same issues as you with arthritis and not seeing too good. Dang parts are just so tiny.
I've found if you try to put the split ring and blade on at the same time they'll spring on you. I use either the Hagens German split rings and I got a 1000 of the rosco stainless from CAT.
Thanks. Who is "CAT"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatman
My wife's name is Cat. Now I know why I always think I have more split rings and blades than I can find. LOL She has been giving them to Fatman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn54
Bobo
I happened to find a pair of these at a flea market for a buck. Teleflex Incorporated - Pilling Surgical Instruments Catalog
A little grinding and they have been perfect for split rings, I tried several of the split ring pliers and the best ones actually came from Wal Mart in the jewerly making section. But none seem to work as well as the dollar clamp that I modified.
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Originally Posted by Bobo Greybeard
Here is a couple of photographs of the suture scissors that I was talking about.
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Hope this helps.
Bobo
PS, Working with these little split rings will make you know for sure if you need new glasses. LOL I do. :(
I have tried several options including split ring pliars but the knife I use has the blade point diameter just right to open the ring then I put in the swivel then the blade and move both around at one time with sharp pointed pliars......can do them pretty fast. Also, I'm 67 so I use Reading glasses......couldn't do it without them. I have used larger rings and yes they are little easier to open.
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Originally Posted by Glenn54
Glenn, us guys with big fingers will have trouble putting on the split rings. You will have to find the easiest way for you to do them. I get them started then I have to use the pliers to finish working the split ring on the rest of the way. It was slow when I first started doing them but now I can do them quickly.
Here is a link to CAT-- Crazy Angle TackleQuote:
Originally Posted by Glenn54
Crazy Angler
Thanks. Would've never guessed what CAT stood for.
SInce these are only holding a blade on and do not need to support the weight of the fish could you just use butt rings or jump rings? They are much easier to put on than the split rings.
My guess is yes for the blade. Anything else I would y
Use a split ring. I am gonna try some when I run down my 1000 split rings lol. May be a while
If you have any bead merchants near you, you may want to try them for the split rings. Tulsa has a really nice bead store with a good assortment, plus the regular Michael's and Hobby Lobby.
I have found the cheapest place to get the Do-it split rings is Zeiners.com. They have a great price on swivels and stainless steel eyes also.
Bobo
Do you just close the butt ring with a pair of needle nose pliers? I had never heard of them but googled them and see that Rosco makes them. This might be a good alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by fliesforall
Thanks to all for the suggestions. Don't hesitate to make other suggestions.
Yes they come open already so all you do is place your swivel and your blade in and squeeze it shut with pliers. I don't use them for attaching hooks but really they would probably hold small panfish fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn54
Can someone please post a link to these things you are talking about?
Bobo
1300 ROSCO BUTT RING | ROSCO, Inc
Here you go Bobo
Thanks