How much weight would you use spider rigging at 1.0 mph?
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How much weight would you use spider rigging at 1.0 mph?
depends on how deep you fishing. then if you're pushing jigs, you don;t need as much weight added as you do with plain hooks. Just hooks and minners, maybe 1 1/2 oz should keep you fairly straight down
3/4 oz should be plenty
When I power troll that fast, I use 2oz. My buddy Les Smith uses 3.
With the 2-3oz weight, you can figure the curve like pushing cranks. The weight will be about 2/3 of the line out. I use the color coded braid to know the amount of line out.
Fixxin to blow the mythe out of the water, it isn't nessecary for your line to be STRAIGHT down, 1 oz will have some lean to it at 1 mph but that's ok. Used to try to weight mine to the point they were straight down but have learned by fishing with some folks that are pretty darn good at it that it just don't have to be that way.
Just fishing hooks & minners about 6 feet deep . I usually use 1/2 oz slow trolling, I've never tried fast trolling. Thanks for the help.
Ditto what Reese says
truth is there is nothing written in stone, one day one thing will work the next something else. I hammered em at Enid last fall pushing at 1.8 one day and the next couldn't buy a bite no matter how I fished. Guess what I am trying to say is, don't be skeered to try something different or change things up, heck if what you are doing aint working it wont hurt to do something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by buckbrush
Good luck
I just had this discussion with a fishing buddy of mine yesterday. He asked how I caught so many more fish than my dad last weekend(i caught 45 and he caught 8). I tood him it had to be that only use a small piece of split shot about 12" above my jig head and dad uses that big 2 oz egg sinker above his.
Most of the fish i caught i could barely see a small change in the way the line was laying. The fish never hit it real hard the whole day. I believe he was getting bites but just couldn't see it.
I use 1/2oz to 1oz. Mostly use 1/2 oz with my C&C's poles.
Lots of times I have pushed 3/4 oz at 1.2 to 1.8 mph with 20 feet of line out in 14-16 fow.......and killed 'em! Just keep those lines away from the TM....turn the rods more to the side.
My uncle would run an 8 oz sinker on the bottom of his rig. 2 baits spaced 2 foot apart with 2 foot from the sinker and 18inch leaders. He always had the sinker at 12 foot deep. So a bait around 8 and 10 foot.
I use 5/8 but seldom troll over 6/10s mph.
3oz will keep them up and down at 1mph and that's what you want. You can turn your boat on a dime with no worries. Where your problem will be is the backbone of your rods. 12' pst will get it done. The old 12' Wally Marshall tight line special has more backbone and those rods are perfect for that.
Mine aren't straight down. Like I said, I figure mine is running 2/3 of the line out. I use the Power Pro Depth Hunter line which changes color every 25', and has a black check mark every 5' so I know exactly how much line I have in the water.
RG is right, you don't need the line STRAIGHT down.
I prefer mine straight that's why I go with 3oz. I tie everything the same very military style. I use my weights and hooks as markers vs how I hold the rod before placing it in the rack. Keep everything the same makes it 100% easier to adjust poles to the best strike zone. Everything is rod holders,poles,reels,lines,hooks,snap swivel,weight and bait. They all play a role try to stay as uniform as you can loop knot length space between hooks and weight. Just makes it easier in my experience.
Agreed. I never use above 1/2 ounce, even when trolling fast (fast is relative, here I mean around 1.0). Some basic geometry can let you figure out how deep you are fishing. If you know how deep you want to fish, and you know the angle of entry your line is making with the water, you can use a handy calculator on your phone to figure out how much line it requires to get the desired depth....Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
Well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
3/4 and 1 oz is all I use.
the only math im doing in a boat is adding up how many fish are in the coolerQuote:
Originally Posted by Iwannafish
Me too bro!!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by slabin
I agree with the "smaller the better" when going slow, but at 1mph, you won't have any trouble seeing the bite. The speed makes the rod bow up when a fish hits or holds it.Quote:
Originally Posted by macpappy
No Math, just an estimate. Then once you find out what length of line you need out to catch em just use that 16 foot trolling rod for a yardstick and it's very simple.
At that speed you either have them or you don't when they hit it.
Thanks for all the good infor...
I'm doing EVERYTHING wrong. No wonder I can't catch fish. I got bad equipment, ain't no good at math, and my english sux two. I'm bookmarking this thread and reading it every day until I catch a fish.
The guys are right IMO, the line doesn't have to be straight up and down. Just remember it's all relative, set to a depth and let the fish dictate your adjustments. Paying attention to the amount of line out is important to be able to reset to where it was when you caught a fish. When I was guiding trips offshore I used to "slow troll" (we called it bump trolling) live bait on down riggers using 16 to 160 oz weights. When I didn't have clients on board I used to don my scuba gear and dive down beneath and anchor buoy tied to back and let my mate or a friend troll around me so I could observe my lures from the fishes point of view. One thing I noticed with weights regardless of size is that even though it looked like its running in a straight line down from the rod tip, that was never the case. The closer to the bait you were the more vertical the line became meaning the line was more elliptical in shape. Now we could discuss how to calculate elliptical parabolas but it's been awhile since I last took physics and calculus. Even diving plugs did this but not near as pronounced.
The faster the speed the less of an arc. So don't fret to much on exact depths, the 2/3 rule will get you in the ball park for crappie fishing. Using the Pythagorean theorum which is basically the Bandit Depth chart will get you close when using cranks. I never fret about being a foot or two off.
I know Iam the minority on heavy weights because everyone I see on the lake pushing is crawling with hardly any rod tips bent and got a couple drift socks out and all that works. I just prefer 1mph and up no socks that works for me I like to cover more ground. To each his own
Aint nuttin wrong with that either, got some 3 oz weights ready to go at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod1
That 1 mph didn't seem to work on Saturday. Actually nothing seemed to work for me on Saturday!!! Everything from sitting practically still to 1 mph!Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod1
I jig till may then I pull till oct then I push till dec. I jigged 1 hour sat. Got nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducker