What is the preference in Mississippi? Capps and Coleman style or Kentucky rig with the weight on bottom? And why?
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What is the preference in Mississippi? Capps and Coleman style or Kentucky rig with the weight on bottom? And why?
Think its a personal preference, both work well.
I use the C&C style, mainly because they stow on the rods better.
I use both.
This is my answer as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I use the C and C style more now for the reason Feelay gave.
The KY rig is easy to store on the rod tho if you hook the hooks together then twist it around the rod. You just have some slack on the main line between the hooks, and the farther apart you make your drops, the more slack line you'll have.
The thing to remember if you tie your own rigs like a lot of us do is that in shallow water make your drops closer together like in 10 fow or less, and make the drops farther apart in deeper water. This helps for two reasons in deep water. One is that you cover a wider range in the water column and Two, the drops won't bounce up and down as bad in the wind if you make the drops Longer.
I have tried both and I do tie my own. I'm just trying to get a feel if one is better than the other. I have went out with both trying to get an idea of which one catches more with mixed results. One thing I think I have found is I recently tied some on 15 lb test hi vis and I think the fiah can see it. Another question does anyone vary their depth getting started? Should I? Only been spider rigging for a year and trying to figure out best practice.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by feelay
C&C style--tie my own
How do y'all get it on depth? Do you drop to the bottom and work from there by 1,2, or 3 cranks?
Myself--I use my pole to measure how deep I'm fishing.
Sometimes, specially if in deep water, most of the time use the rod like KDavid saysQuote:
Originally Posted by Prplgold
I use both. I also tie my own. The neatest thing I've found to hook the hooks to the rod you can get at any coop. They are called docking rings. They are used to castrate bull calves. It's a small green O-ring that you can put on the shaft of your rod in the close proximity to where the hook will hit the pole and roll the O-ring over the barb end of the hook. They also have a tool with four prongs that will expand the O-ring. It can be done by hand but it is easier with the tool. The O-rings stay on your pole. You don't take them on and off. They only last about a season, they are made to deteriorate so they fall off the calf. Back to the question, I have'nt found an advantage of one over the other.
I fish the CC rigs I tie myself. Usually starting out if I don't know any thing different I will vary the depth starting out. Try about a foot or two difference until they tell me where they are.
I use the bobber stopper string to mark depth on main line.
Ky rig is quick and easy to tie if you don't have anything pre rigged and ready. I don't use them anymore. I played with them and learned that fish preferred the bottom hook and very rarely hit the top hook. Ok, I know... I was probably fishing too shallow right? No, I had them fishing right beside rigs with swivels and they were catching fish on top and bottom at the same depth. To me it didn't make since why, but I am no dummy. If I am fishing with 2 hooks I want both of them to be catching fish.
You must be fishing really shallow then :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
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Originally Posted by Handicrappie
usually too shallow :)
C&C using duo lock swivel to connect line to triple swivel. Remove and wrap on noodle while traveling, no tangles. Measure depth by length of pole like KDavid.
I use the pre tied ones from Grizzly Jig, they seem to work pretty well.....I do need to tie a few with gnats on them, KDavid tells me that is why I don't do as well as you locals!!
did i say that:dono
I use both rigs, I've found the C&C work good on flats and open water. The Kentucky rigs are better when working up and down ledges. The Kentucky rigs work better when spider rigging around structure also, if you snag you can usually work it loose by bouncing the weight. I use this a lot on the Ten-Tom. I often start out at different depths and I mark my poles at 2' intervals with different colors of nail polish as a quick reference for depth.
C&c ?
Anybody run a weight on bottom of rig and then run hooks above that?
That's the Kentucky Rig we were talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by deltadawg9
Should've known.. I often imitate setups I see and try them out. The Kentucky has worked well for me over the years. Going to make some C&C's and try it out.
Kentucky. Deep water hooks 2 feet apart. Shallow water hooks 1 feet apart
I like the Kentucky for structure bumping when fish are hugging bottom deeper than 15' and only when fishing plain minnows. If I am using jig heads for color and added distance of bait separation then the C/C style is what I like. The jig head on the bottom of the rig will allow you to cover more depth and can be used with plain minnow or many mylar/plastic/feather/hair styles with a minnow. One twist for really shallow water like spawning fish is a C/C without the middle weight. A 1/8 or 1/4 or 1/2 oz jig head on bottom and a plain hook 1' or so above it. You will also see less fish shake the hook since the weight is not in the middle and its easier removing from the net. This is for me but experiment and see what you like.
Whats deep? Or whats shallow?Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod1
2ft is deep for me :)
yep gotta be careful you will drown in that depth :biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
but you are last to be hit by rain .:biggrin wear your pfd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
Much rather be single pole fishin a jig and perch jerking that way..
Depends on your height.Quote:
Originally Posted by Handicrappie
I was just trying to learn something from a Sardis legend.....Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod1
Don't know about all that now. I think you got sardis figured out pretty good yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Handicrappie
Probably of little help but an easy inexpensive way to control hooks and sinker when transporting is bread ties. Will work with any setup and u can fish what u are most comfortable with. Twist around hook and pole and right above sinker on a KY rig. No tangles. Old cheap ways still work....
Check out my post about "weird find" in the ms off topic. What you are talking about got discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jbrewer
Alright I read it feesh. Didn't see anything bout bread ties.??? Little worms parasite and #4 shot was all I saw....
"Did you not read this?" Got pics with it also While GDG and I were cleaning fish today he found the strangest thing in the stomach of one of them. the only thing we can figure, is it slipped off the bread sack and got swallowed while it was flowing in the current. Kinda looks like a minnow.