I agree with TNT Anchorman & fishin813 on the Florida forum:crazy:
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I agree with TNT Anchorman & fishin813 on the Florida forum:crazy:
That's messed up...............When pushing how much weight do you use?
:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl... It varies TNT is one of the best longliners I know and can best address that for you ...when I say it varies it really does Tim and the rest of the forum talk about longlining from time to time... a very good discussion, this is the right place to get that answer try Countrytime on this forum or TNT on the Fla page ...by the way just having a little fun:fish
:scratchhead...Messed up like ..messed up cause I agree with TNT Anchorman & fishin813 on the Florida forum or .....Think I'll ask Tim what he thinks it mean..naw think I'll ask detailman or jigs I like TNT but not that much he might spin it around and say it meant something other :Rofl. or then it just might be me :hatchet:
how much weight? :)
Well Dave ...lets say you are pushing use only enough weight to keep the lines from going under your boat ..try and keep the lines vertical the faster the more weight advantage is you can stop on a dime or turn in place... trolling lets say around 1 or 1.1 mph ya got out 75 to 100' 6lb line out and your fish are 12'deep with double 1/16 oz or single 1/8 oz should put you in the ball park ...but like I said all of that varies. If there is cover underneath you and you have to turn the inside lines will fish deeper on your turn and could snag ..speeding up in the turns could help. Say you are on Oconee lots of trees ..then pushing could be best,you now have eliminated that problem for the most part ..that is only one of many scenarios, mostly you add weight to get deep or slow down with the weight you have on to get deeper ..on average 1/16 or 1/24 is the weight you would use when fish are somewhat shallow ,but other times you have to be versatile . It don't take much to get started longlining but the longer you do it the better you get and the more you learn what changes to make and what works and what does not work ...100' of line out over trees and you stop the boat (don't work) you get me.:fish
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Originally Posted by quick
Don't let Quick fool ya. He can catch fish in a trash can on the side of the road in Mexico if someone told him there were crappie in it!Quote:
Originally Posted by quick
One thing you left out of that equation Quick is angle of rods from water surface to go with the length of line/speed/bait weight calculation................:juggle
There are folks on here that can answer you better than I can, but when I used to push, I would use a 1/2 oz weight and then tie on a 2-3 foot liter with my bait on the end. I would troll, or hover, over the structure or whatever I was fishing over. If I was to move while pushing, I would only do about .2 to .4 mph.....This is the short version of all the different ways it can be done...Hope this helps!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Davedirt
Dave pair up with someone on the forum and you might see them out on the water soon and in 10 minutes they can have you using the proper technique ...but having said that you do have to consider the gear,rods,reels,placement of rod holders,gigs colors ect.
Pushing weight: Have to figure out how shallow or deep you want to run what weight baits at what speed and rod tip distance from water with what diameter line (I didn't say what lbs test since that would open up another thread!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Davedirt
Easy answer: Shallower=lighter; Faster=heavier; Deeper=heavier; slower=lighter...... Generally pushing you will be ok with 1/4 to 1/2 oz and adjust accordingly
Have we got you confused yet Dave:confused:there are many good pushers and pullers on CDC and I owe most of all I have learned in the last six years to the forum...hold on to your pole my friend you're bout ta start catching slabs ...that's what we do here you know:fish
Quick the only thing I am a expert at is running my mouth and stirring the pot with the big stick. I just learned how to long line last year from Chuckie Boy when it comes to pushing I know how to push a truck. :Rofl So please pull me out from under this bus you have shoved me under I am tired of counting the nuts and bolts under here :Rofl
Dave I will say this about the forum there are folks on here that have helped me to get better at fishing with advice which they will PM you so that the whole world does not find out but it was always good advice. When they help be sure to thank them and let them know how you did. I have not met a lot of the people personally on the forum YET. but hope to fix that as time goes on. If you can go to every get together that you can you will meet a lot of great people and they will be wonderful help.:fish
Same here Detail the only thing I am a expert at is running my mouth and stirring the pot with the big stick.R we related:yikes
:twocents if your not a puller.........then your just a pusher :Rofl:Rofl sorry I had to do it :biggrin
That's coming from the only guy I know that catches a 19" Red Fish while crappie fishing:yikesQuote:
Originally Posted by specktacklure
Help this La. feller out as I usually only fish with one pole...are these all forms of spider rigging....good info on this thread BTW...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shine Runner
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Originally Posted by Shine Runner
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Originally Posted by fishervet
The part I was referring to above was for pulling. For spiderrigging it is a lot simpler: slower and/or shallower = lighter weight (sinker and/or jig); faster and/or deeper = heavier weight (sinker and/or jig). Main thing you want to accomplish spiderrigging is keeping baits in front of boat away from trolling motor as far as you can manage comfortably. You can accomplish this by using a multitude of combinations of rod length/weight/size of line/speed. Normally spiderriging will be at .7 mph or slower, but 3rd place Crappie Masters Classic last fall was pushing at 1.0 mph on purpose. So many ways to catch one kind of fish..............
I use 3/8oz spider rigging going .3 -.5 mph, want as little bend in the rod tip as possible to show strikes yet enough weight to keep my baits down in the strike zone. Rarely fish deeper than 14ft, if fishing deeper then add more Bull Shot. Davedirt run a search on G&G Rig, the threads on this go into deeper detail about this.