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I was just wondereding if there had ever been any kind of crappie club on Shelbyville. One that just have a few tournaments a year for club members just on Shelbyville and dosent travel to different lakes. Would anybody be interested in starting one? Make it a 2 person team. Might be fun and I think it makes you a better fisherman when you are competing.
there has never been one that I am aware of . I mentioned it to the lake biologist when I talked to him about 4 or 5 years ago about putting brush in the lake. Kind of like spfld crappie club does on all the lakes that they fish. I would be all for it but, you don't need to have just tourneys for members. you make it open to anyone that wants to fish it. the club members would be the ones responsible for all the other stuff involved.
Sounds like a plan. but i think you would have to have some club tournaments or you would not get people to join the club. Have some club and some opens. Its getting harder to get people to fish any tournaments.
stinny that's what I was getting at. some members that I have talked to in the spfld crappie club say that if it was up to them they would do away with the open tourneys. Well that is not what you need either, that is a way of maybe getting more members to join. One big reason you are not getting the numbers are the dates and the places of launching. Crappie anglers do not like to spend money on entry fees or high gas prices. Another big thing is late fees on entries. A lot of guys now will go prefish and if they are not on big fish then they wont fish the tourney. so they are looking at why pay money early if im not on big fish. that's just what I have heard at tourneys I have fished that is coming from other tournament guys. But like I said I am all for it. I had heard a rumor about hook it bait wanting to put together a circuit type for crappie tourneys like six or so tourneys a year with a classic at the end. Correct me if im wrong on that pat (hook it Bait). But I like his idea too.
Actually guys i have discussed this with a few on here and have been researching, etc. since the tourney this spring we put on when we were asked to do more if possible. We take care of all the Corps (bait/fish for their aquariums) thus have a good relationship there.
Have discussed with our insurance carrier and can get a 5-6 tourney package for just over the cost of 2 single tourneys. Must sit all dates ahead though.
My thoughts are this and some of you have heard this speech already lol.
6 tourneys total: mar, april, may, sept, oct-----nov classic
$25 tourney trail fee to participate. If we would get 40-50 guys total to join/participate. That would cover the corp required insurance for all 6. And thus we could have full 100% payback tourneys.
Also my thoughts some have liked the idea and some havent. But i would like to see some of the tourneys area specific. Ex. Mar-entire lake. April. Eagle and North may--eagle and south., etc
Also i would not want to see dedicated partners.
All tourneys run out of Eagle also.
Anyway thats my thoughts and it is something that i have worked on and is doable.
We are open to help and take care of all we can. Would like to see some sort of commitee etc. that has some of u veteran tourney guys input if in fact u want to pursue. Just wanted to let everyone know that it is and we have actually laid some of the groundwork.
If a said person is on the committee can they still participate in tourneys ?? not sure I understand the dedicated partners part. if you are having five tourneys with a classic it should be set up to where the two man teams compile a running points. then the 15 or so top teams fish the classic for a bigger pot trophy type thing.. just an idea reguardless I think it is a great idea Pat and after you get your directors or tourney committee together and get all the details worked out and set in stone it will go off with a bang. For your first tourney ever this past spring you had a good turn out and we enjoyed the tourney. sponsors to chip in would be great too. I will be getting a hold of you in the next week. thanks for clearing up the tourney talk too.
Any and all would be welcome commitee or not. I personally dont like dedicated partner for the season. Lets take Team 1 (birdie and his dad) probably preferred partners and team 2 (crappie24 and his boy duff) they both fish as planned tourney 1 & 2 but 3 issues arised and birdie dad and duff both have to work. Birdie and Crappie24 have fished and won/placed in several as a team as we all know. No reason they shouldnt be able to because there prefered partner cant make it. Just thoughts and ideas is all i am throwing out there.
The boat is dedicated meaning at least one person is fishing out of that boat each tournament.
Hope this helps clear up the dedicated partner issue
I'm all for this... would like to see a tournament in June and July. No reason not to. It's nice out then. Maybe a little warm but the fish bite.
You guys went a totally different direction from what I was talking but that's ok. I might get my wife to do the club deal more for fun type tournaments but not for what you guys are talking now, but im glad I brought it up and got a good discussion going on it.
Just curious what direction you wanted it to go?
Like I talked about in my last post
what I was going this direction for is to have the Shelbyville crappie club for this tournament that pat is talking about. just throwing that out there. It has to be started somehow right??
Steve-Quote:
Originally Posted by clfarms1
I'm confused in what you're wanting to put together if it's not along the lines of what pats trying to put together. You said couple tournaments a year on Shelby alone and memberships and fishing for fun and that's pretty much what he's trying to set up... After all, whattya think we are a bunch of professional crappie fellers on here?! Nobody is going to get rich on these tournaments that's for sure... But could help pay to fill up your boat and truck a few times!
right, but you dont need a club to do what your talking about, You are just talking about having open money tournaments with a list of rules as long as your arm that you will need 6 lawyers to figure it our and read them to you ( or me at least). I guess my orginal post was really was there ever a club , was anyone interested in one just to kind of have some friendly fishing, maybe be some bragging rights, and small entry fees. KInd of got hyjacked along the way or off track anyway but like i said Im kewl with it.
Here is what I had/have envisioned if you will for everyone. $25--- Is a 1 time fee (Call it a tourney trail fee or a club membership fee) ALL tourneys would be
club as well as OPEN to anyone and everyone. All tourneys would be ran just like the one we did this spring (no late fees, etc.) I would like to see different areas like I mentioned before. It would force guys that are die hard north end to learn the south and vice-versa. We have a great lake from 1 end to the other and I personally think there are guys on both ends of the spectrum that are one end or the other and wont go the other direction. I just think this would force many out of there comfort zone and force them to learn more of the lake.
The $25 would go to cover the insurance for 5-6 tourneys plus the $50/tourney Corp fee anything over and above could go to the year end Classic or Angler of the year.
As far as dedicated boat like croppiemstr mention I say that is a yes and no to that also.
To my scenario above lets throw in Birdie's buddy chickenguy to the mix and say he was birdies partner to one of the tourneys or even this (new love of his life he mentions now or both) Say they place in the top 20% of the tourney (this is the number I envisioned to qualify for the classic for each tourney) thus chickenguy and Birdie's LOVE interest both managed to get qualified for the classic.
Thus come classic time Birdie goes with plan A and fishes with dad, thus he gets dumped and I loan chickenguy my boat to fish in the classic with his new love Birdies EX!!!!! This is why I say no dedicated partner or dedicated boat. This would open the classic up to more people, etc.
The club side of these tourney's would come in toward angler of the year. This would strictly be a points race. The more tourneys your in the better your odds of winning AOY. Theoretically a person who fished every tourney and never placed in top 5 say but did qualify for the classic could be angler of the year despite never being in the money.
Like I said there are way more experienced and knowledgable tourney guys than me here, and these are just my random thoughts as far as sitting up something that 1) Is fun for all first and foremost 2) Rewarding for the ultra competitive guys, etc.
As far as Crappie24 suggestion months of the tourneys I see no reason we couldnt drop Mar for June I just said the months i did to avoid the tourist etc. But a APR, MAY, JUNE, JULY, SEPT, OCT-CLASSIC would work also. Thats why I said there needs to be some sort of tourney committee, etc. who are more knowledgable than me.
Once again just my 2 cents and open for any and all suggestions. Like I said it is doable and we have done preliminary legwork. But this is something that we can not take on without some help (committee, etc.). Me and the wife both work full time in addition to the baitshop so I dont think we can find the time to run this also the way it needs to be on our own.
Steve, on a Corp lake there is no such thing LEGALLY as having a club/buddy tourney unless you do it all offsite like they do the SIT and SIP Tourney. Do some small bass clubs etc do it yes. Is it right NO in my opinion, not to the people/organizations that are doing it the way it is supposed to be done. Technically I could have run a tourney out of the shop and have all check weigh ins, etc there as I got ample parking lol. And not a darn thing they could do about it. But I prefer to stay on the right side of the Corp and work with them rather than around them.
Pat, it sounds fine what you are wanting to do. My only suggestion is if you are going to have a classic then you have to have a system to make people fish in the regular tournaments. What I mean is you need a certain number of points, wether by where you place, or by number ot tournaments that you have to fish. In my old green carp club you had several ways to qualify but it was all geared towards fishing the regular tournaments. If you won a tournament you were automatically qualified, but you had to fish every tournament to stay qualified. If you missed a tournament then you had to get in on points like everyone else otherwise you could have someone fish one tournament and be in the classic and thats not fair. I think springfield cc has their rules online which might be a good place to look at for some ideas.
I did not know that, but I do now. That makes it a little harder to do I guess, more planing ect. So technally we couldnt have a throw 5 bucks in the hat at spring camp for big fish of the day. I know at my old green carp fishing lake they have one every sunday that they dont get approved I fished in alot of them, not a corp lake but dnr lake.Quote:
Originally Posted by HookItBait
You are one of those professionals, wilbur told me you was. lol, I was just throwing something out there and it got a good discussion going so thats good.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdman
Nope u could have tossed in 5 each at CC as long as u weighed it back at the pavillon etc. (offsite)
Delmar and I are in the s-ville club. He is the original member and president. We meet up with a bunch of guys and a gal or two, shoot the breeze, jab each other, and meet at different spots around the lake. No boat is needed, no entry fee and everyone has a ball. LOL I guess the down side is we don't know who wins and no money exchanges hands. You who have fished with us know what I mean.
Brrrrrr--chilly this morning. Have to hold the worms in your mouth to keep them from freezing.
That's what Im talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by XXLFISH
I ok with whatever way this goes but my only thing is some guys and gals don't have a snowballs chance in heck of doing any good in a tournament against people who fishing tournament before. With that being said could you have 2 classes to pay out, 1 for lets call it a pro teams, anyone who have fished in a tourney before and a amatur class, anyone who has never fished in a tourament and would be concidered an amatur for the whole year. Might just bring in some more players to the game, just a thought. I know I just like to fish for fun but some people take the tounament thing WAY to seriously. Any if we do get this going with a Lake Shelbyville Crappie Club(LSCC), then maybe we could have a SCC vs LSCC once a year and have the tourament one year on our lake then the next year on their lake. Just thought s going through my pea size brain.
What kind of numbers would it take to do this? The fall crappie tournaments struggled with numbers and how many people want to fish for one maybe two places. As far as two divisions I say no. The only way you become a better tournament fisherman is to fish against good fisherman. If this is gonna happen ya better get rolling on it soon if its going to happen this year.
Game for anything......would be nice to meet up with others and swap ideas and shoot the bull.....maybe catch a couple fish!
I'm game if u get it going. I like the idea of fishing opposite ends of the lake as well as no dedicated partner. It gives You the opportunity to meet new people. Like u said no ones gonna get rich even if they won all the tourneys.
Welcome meat,nice bunch of guys on here
I think it's a fun idea. +1 for the scramble type tourney.
Welcome Meat and MWiley65 nice to have new members from around close
G8 site hope to meet some new people that fish the ville this yr
You will have to come to spring crappie camp on May 17th, at Eagle creek alot of the people you see on here wil be thereQuote:
Originally Posted by meat56
Meat, clfarms1 fishes about every weekend and I only lives afew miles from Lithia but fishes all parts of the lake. I'm sure we will all meet on the water sometimes. Ps make sure and put a C.C sticker on your boat, it s help to find us.
Good idea on the sticker. Hopefully ill have my boat finished by spring! Still quite a bit of work left though. I had no idea it could end up being this much work.
What all takes place at the may crappie camp? Do u bring ur boat?
Some do some dont, We have some that come down for several days and fish, then we have some that just come to the cookout on Saturday night. I would say that most come and fish on Saturday and Sunday. We have a place at Coon Creek RV park and I will try to be there Thursday night and stay the weekend as we will have people staying at the lodge there and can come over to our place for eating and a campfire. As far as what takes place it is just a good friendly get together to meet all the people that you talk to on here. Last year we had prize raffles for some really neat stuff and had a band play, lots of good foodQuote:
Originally Posted by meat56
Hey, now that sounds like a good time!
We hope you make it lol... what do you think about having a get together the first weekend in March to get things rolling bowbenderQuote:
Originally Posted by Bowbender
I would love to help make this happen. The only thing I would like to see is some summer tournaments. Maybe July and August. Maybe an earlier start time and earlier end time to avoid heat and pleasure boaters.