Polycarbonite Tipped Bullets

I shoot a Browning X-Bolt rifle in the .270 Short Mag. caliber. Yesterday, after the 15 turkey hens left my patch, an 8-point walked out at 5:15pm. I took a broadside shot at 40 yds and the deer just took off running. No blood or hair in the patch and I found only four drops of blood in the woods, in the first 100 yds. Apparently, the bullet never opened up, just punching a small hole in the deer. I could tell when I shot that the deer didn't feel any impact. I never found the deer. I'd heard good things about these bullets but I'll not be using them again.


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It is not the tips fault. It is the construction of the bullet behind it. I have used Nosler accubonds since they came out and they are bang flop. Some are made to expand at long range, some close in. Nosler and Hornady SST's seem to be very good.

Apparently, these are the long range bullets then. The tips are very hard. I've seen other bullets like the ballistic tips that have a softer plastic tip. I'm going with the Sierra boat-tail pointed soft points in the Federal Premium.

Sounds like your right and didn't hit any vitals.

Scott we use those in our 243WSSM and love em, not sure what happened but the couple we have recovered have opened very well. Thats our go to bullet.

My gun is zeroed in and this was a 40 yd shot out of a shoot house with a rest. I had the crosshairs just behind the shoulder and halfway down his body. He just took off like something scared him. Normally if not knocked down, they will react like a sledge hammer hit them. I just punched a .270 sized hole in him.

I dont know, I like the 444 for the closer shots. Makes me sick when this crap happens, know you are.

I still use the old Winchester Silver Tips and never had a problem.....they are pretty hard to beat. The old Remington Core-Locs work good for me too. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it lol

Silvertips for me...never had a problem. At close range it will turn 'em for a flip!

I shoot Barnes Vor-TX in every gun I own for deer hunting. Since I switched last year have not had a deer move more that 10 yds. But most shots were from a 7 mag or 35 Whelen. YouTube the bullets and you can see them shot through ballistics gel

at 40 yards with a high velocity round. it is very likely they went thru without expanding..The early Balistic tips did the same thing. All the tip does is keep the point from being damaged, and start the initial expansion. How fast it expands depends on the jacket expansion.

I just got a box of Rem. Core-Locs for the .270 Win. Short Mag. They always did a good job in my .270 Win. I wish I'd had my .45-70. I'll probably start using it more when I'm not where I'd have some long shots.

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Silvertips for me...never had a problem. At close range it will turn 'em for a flip!

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270 130gr silvertip is a awesome round I have never had to even look for blood when I shoot one they drop in their tracks !!!! I shoot nothing but the neck they go straight to the ground !!! now understand I don't hunt for horns cause I ain't got no recipe on how to cook them !!!!:ThumbsUp

Scott when I hunted a lot you couldn't give me anything but the Federal Premiums you were talking about. They will put a deer down faster than any bullet I ever used. As for all these poly tips and silver tips they are fine in open areas but my problem with the silver tips was if they hit anything including a bone or a twig they would just explode into pieces.
That's being said bullets is like ford or chevy or State or Ole Miss, this question will always get an argument started lol.

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I just got a box of Rem. Core-Locs for the .270 Win. Short Mag. They always did a good job in my .270 Win. I wish I'd had my .45-70. I'll probably start using it more when I'm not where I'd have some long shots.

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Take both guns to the shoot house....that's what my brother in law does

I will be willing to bet that the Remington C/L have killed as many head of game as any other round. They don't get the glamour and hype, but they are deadly on deer sized game. And they are very accurate out of most hunting type rifles. That is my opinion based on years as a firearms instructor, reloader, range officer and hunter. I think allot of this new stuff is more for the hunter than the game.

Well we found my deer. It's a wonder my buddy and I didn't step on him last night. He was about 100 yds from the green patch and the way he fell, you couldn't see his white stomach. He's a 6 point, not an 8 like I thought. It was dark-thirty when i shot him and its not cold enough for me to trust that the meat's still good. What a waste, it makes me sick.

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man I hate that !!! that's why I will not shoot a poly or ballistic tip projectile !!! did you notice where all the blood went was all in the hair of the deer ? we had a guy in our hunting club shoot one and there was only 1 drop of blood the deer went 100 yards before going down and all the blood was in the hair cause of the bullet going straight thru without expansion !!!

I hit him right where I was aiming. Right behind the shoulder and midways, up and down. He was angling away from me slightly when i shot him. The exit wound was in the right shoulder and the same size as the entrance wound. I guess I learned a hard lesson about using long range bullets at close range. I think his body cavity was filled with all the blood. When he fell he made a pretty big puddle.

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I hit him right where I was aiming. Right behind the shoulder and midways, up and down. He was angling away from me slightly when i shot him. The exit wound was in the right shoulder and the same size as the entrance wound. I guess I learned a hard lesson about using long range bullets at close range. I think his body cavity was filled with all the blood. When he fell he made a pretty big puddle.

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man I hate that for you !!! you like me to not find one it makes you sick !!!here's a picture of the silvertip I am talking about !!!
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man I hate that for you !!! you like me to not find one it makes you sick !!!here's a picture of the silvertip I am talking about !!!
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That's the one i used to use in 30/06. They always did a great job for me. Would leave a good hole. I would still use them, but they are hard to find around here.

180 gr. core lox in 30.06.Usually hunt the thick stuff and don't get too many wide open shots.

The bonded cores like the Accubond will do a good job of expanding up close. But I still like the Remingtons.. I like a big hole going in, and a bigger one coming out. Can't track and find one without the blood trail. Most times it will be a bang flop. I hate to lose one, just makes me sick.

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Apparently, these are the long range bullets then. The tips are very hard. I've seen other bullets like the ballistic tips that have a softer plastic tip. I'm going with the Sierra boat-tail pointed soft points in the Federal Premium.

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That's exactly what I shoot in my 270. The Federal Premium with the Sierra BTSP. My gun really shoots them well.

If I continue using the 270 WSM where I'm hunting now, I'll be using a heavier round nose bullet. The 130 grain polymer bullet is designed for long range accuracy instead of short range bullet expansion.

Did you find the deer?

NEVER MIND. I hate it for ya.

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If I continue using the 270 WSM where I'm hunting now, I'll be using a heavier round nose bullet. The 130 grain polymer bullet is designed for long range accuracy instead of short range bullet expansion.

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Bingo

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Did you find the deer?

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Yea, he had gone about 100 yards in a pine thicket. My buddy and I had walked all over him last night without seeing him. He wasn't dropping blood so tracking him was not an option. It wasn't cold enough last night so I just left him laying there.

CORELOCKS/ POWERPOINTS FOR NORMAL RANGE . PLENTY BAD . JMO .:twocents

Winchester supreme ballistic silver tips are the best bullets made in my opinion. Not sure about the accubond never had any but won't be trying them now

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The bonded cores like the Accubond will do a good job of expanding up close. But I still like the Remingtons.. I like a big hole going in, and a bigger one coming out. Can't track and find one without the blood trail. Most times it will be a bang flop. I hate to lose one, just makes me sick.

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I don't track a deer I shoot the neck it hits the ground where its at no running , no tracking, just load and take to the processor!!!!:biggrin:ThumbsUp

Been using the win. fail safe 165 gr. have never lost one or the rem. core lokt I shoot a .308.

Win ballistic silver tips if buying factory ammo and ONLY Sierra bullets if reloading!

Winchester Ballistic Silvertips 150grain in my .300WSM and 140grain in my 7mmWSM. No problems.

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Winchester Ballistic Silvertips 150grain in my .300WSM and 140grain in my 7mmWSM. No problems.

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Thanks Gary, I think I'm gonna go with a 150 grain round nosed bullet of some type in my 270 WSM. Finding some right now is the problem. All I found yesterday was a box of 130 grain Rem. Core Locs. Are the Silvertips a round nosed, soft nosed bullet like the Super-X Power Points?

The silvertips that you find now are exactly like the ones you have been using, just a different tip in it. They used to, may still do, make a solid point silvertip that was blount like the one posted earlier but I havent seen any of those. That 130 grain corelok will do it, another thing when close with a magnum rifle shoot that sucker dead in the shoulder, got more resistance and will knock him down most of the time and for sure do more damage.

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That 130 grain corelok will do it, another thing when close with a magnum rifle shoot that sucker dead in the shoulder, got more resistance and will knock him down most of the time and for sure do more damage.

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what Rees Guide said !!!
if your weapon holds a good group with the corelok use them, that will knock them to ground you want have to track far to find them if they do run !!!

I had a friend that used to talk about only taking neck shots. Two years in a row I had to give him meat. It works if you hit them. Those 130 C/L will do the job. Shoot like you usually do. Shoulder shots will anchor it, at the cost of some meat.

150 rem. Coreloks bad to the bone . That sweet spot right behind the sholder and just below the spine core lok will do the rest . If you miss that spot it will still get him or her .