Black Friday shoppers duke it out, draw taser in Philly mall brawl (video) | AL.com :dono
Printable View
Was telling the wife yesterday, can you imagine what it would be like if we all of a sudden had a shortage of food.
It would get nasty real quick!
That's showing the Christmas spirit, taze your neighbor.
Shortage of food would cause the democrats to riot....
bad deal
Open Carry would have prevented this
This would not happen if Christmas was celebrated as a time to reflect on Christ. It has evolved into an event of greed and stress. Fishingpox, I usually agree with you. But more than likely it would have resulted in a shooting and riot.
Open carry has it merits when dealing with rabid savages. When disparity of force is present by all means shoot till you run out of bullets.
This is why I don't shop, and especially on days when those sales kick off. I remember the Beenie Baby craze
And when you run out of bullets Mad Max, am certain the family members of those you just gunned down in front of them will quietly let you finish your holiday shopping, pay for your blood splattered presents and then peacefully leave alive...sincerely DOUBT that...remember to save the LAST bullet for yourself so to avoid having the general public pay for the trial and more importantly so that the likely somewhat now enraged crowd don`t get a hold of you even briefly alive...and wouldn`t it be IRONIC if a CCW holder saw you shooting, gunned YOU down, and became a national HERO, with honors and all that ?
BTW, AGREE with the to (deleted) with `Black Friday` shopping crap ! Remember trying to get my niece this Cabbage Patch doll back in the mid 1980`s...
You will never hear me say I wished I hadn't run out of bullets, not going to happen . But yes, if the whole family attacks, whackem. I have done the world a favor. I don't think you understand Cinderfellow
On the other hand, I would never fight for a TV, hardly watch them.
I forgot to add, Open Carry is permitted in Pa.
No duty to retreat as well in Pa.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowellhturner
Not in Phila, and I think that's where this particular incident happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingpox
I don't know city of Philly laws, state laws are what I was speaking to. I firmly believe good people with guns will stop a lot of crap.
http://www.seventy.org/OurViews_How_..._vs_State.aspxQuote:
Originally Posted by Shellback
I personally believe the more guns that are carried by the general public the more incidents there will be, not everybody should carry a gun, even if they are legally allowed to.
From the link. Phila is the only pace in the state where open carry is prohibited without a permit.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingpox
You do need a license to carry a concealed weapon on streets or most other public places in Pennsylvania, as well as in cars and trucks. And in Philadelphia you need one to carry a gun openly, in a holster. But in the rest of the state a license isn’t necessary for “open carry.” As for schools, the law’s murkier than you might think, but the chances are you’ll be stopped if you try to take a gun into a school.
I'd have to agree. Too many wantabe John Wayne's.Quote:
Originally Posted by HLLeonard
john wayne has nothing to do with someone stopping an IDIOT trying to kill a bunch of people or protecting his home,family or personal property !!! if the idiot understands they have a good chance of getting dinked in their actions most of the time they go on without any issues !!!
I have no problem with the intent of your above situation. I just believe many folks aren't capable of reacting properly in a crisis situation such as the above. I wouldn't have a problem requiring all permit holders to through a basic firearms self defense course. Might separate the wannabee's from folks that have the proper skills and judgement capabilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by strmwalker
this where I disagree I DO NOT believe in a PERMIT to do what is your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to bare arms ;Quote:
Originally Posted by Shellback
now with that said I have no problem with a background check !!!
I think in that same link I read where Philly city parks are off limit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shellback
If you believe in the constitutional right to bear arms, then why should we require background checks? Here's the text of the second amendment:Quote:
Originally Posted by strmwalker
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Doesn't say anything about background checks. If we go by the second amendment, I'd have to believe any nut case has the right to bear arms. I whole heartily agree an experienced armed citizen could have prevent many deaths in Colorado or Connecticut. But someone who just happened to pass a background and bought a gun to carry? Not so sure about that. I would hope that you would want your local police force to have proficiency tests for guns. Not so unreasonable to require an armed citizen to pass some type of test.
now understand that we have a right to agree to disagree !!!I did not say a word about requiring nothing !!! what I said is I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A BACKGROUD CHECK that's a big difference !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shellback
if you pass the background check and want to carry then yes !!!
here again is where we have to agree to disagree!!! a gun did not and will not kill anybody it is the person not the weapon !!! is it the car that went out and got drunk that killed ??? is it the knife ??? is it the ax ??? it all comes back to the individual with the object !!!! NOT THE OBJECT !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shellback
As far as "properly trained", here is an UNDISPUTABLE fact: in combat situations, 25% of all common infantry soldiers DO NOT actually AIM ie LOOK THRU the sights, they simply point the weapon and shoot in the general direction of the enemy. And 15% of ALL US Army troops CAN NOT be taught to ACCURATELY navigate using a map and compass...and these same troops are NOT entrusted with bayonetes in peace time because there is no SAFETY built on them...YES, let`s arm EVERYONE who legally can be and then dive for cover...
And BTW, the 2cnd Amendment was referring to MUSKETS and light cannon, NOT machine guns, assault weapons, tanks, jet attack aircraft and nukes...
no one said anything about machine guns,assault weapons,tanks,jet attack aircraft and nukes !!! I hope one day you can clear your head of all the deranged thoughts going on in there and have a intelligent come back and stay on topic to a post !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowellhturner
So the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to phones, faxes, email and the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowellhturner
--Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
That is a good question..... I would still be uncomfortable with john Q Citizen having machine guns, assault weapons, attack aircraft and nukes.