Any Ky crappie clubs within 75 miles of bowling green, ky? I fish Ky lake mostly
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Any Ky crappie clubs within 75 miles of bowling green, ky? I fish Ky lake mostly
need to get on t.slabseeker to start a club.
:hesaid
So t.slabseeker what will it be? i think its a great idea.
Tim & I discussed that, prior to the Fall Brawl ... and intended to bring it up during the festivities. Obviously, that didn't happen :Doh:
We concluded that it might be a better idea to hold a few "fruit jar" tourneys, first ... and see if enough participation/interest was garnered to even consider the "club" idea. We were thinking something along the lines of $20-$50/boat ... 7-10 fish limit ... three different lakes, one tourney every other month for a total of 3 tournaments.
As I told Tim .... I might participate in some of the tourneys, but I would not be interested in being an officer/official in either the tourney series or a club.
... cp :kewl
I would be glad to fish some knowing i cant catch 7 or 10 but will be fun trying. So crappie pappy let her rip. Chucky will drive to good of a guy not to.
I'm not wanting to be official either but would fish some of the tourneys. Chucky thought we going to have 1 pole, 1 person per boat.:Rofl
I would fish. I have been fishing some of the central ky crappie association tournaments. They have 4 in the spring and 4 in the fall. and some open night tournaments on green river. $4o a boat including big fish. 7 fish limit.
Don't want to be Vacuum Cleaners! rotflQuote:
Originally Posted by t.slabseeker
We can still have one like that, but.........from what i heard today, George is fishing with Rodney and somebody else is with you Devil IconQuote:
Originally Posted by t.slabseeker
:Rofl.
:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl Guys no wonder he hates us.
He know we all are just joking, but you know what he just wants :).
I too would be interested in a club or some tournaments around here. Blinkey's tackle out of Fountain Run Ky is having a 7 fish tournament on Barren the first part of next month. They haven't set a date yet but I'll post it as soon as they do. You can also like them on Facebook.
tim he only hates you.. he cant hate me:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl
I've looked at this thread for a couple of days and thought long and hard about what I have to say. I fished bass tournaments and bass clubs for years, both in GA and KY. I found out one gorilla-in-the-room issue with club and tournament fishing: there will be a percentage, most of the time small thank goodness, of folks who get involved and look at these activities as a cheap way to be guided around for a day so they can learn new tactics and new places to fish. Some will be newbies but many will be veterans who should know better than run all over somebody else's spots when they are shown them in confidence. I know some folks who fish crappie clubs and those clubs are very selective about who they invite to join.
I would be interested
Mrdux, crappie tourneys are way different than bass tourneys , crappie you don't have boaters and non-boaters. You don't draw for partners, everybody already has a partner or fishes by their self and are based more on a trust system than bass tourneys..I am not be a butt hole but crappie fisherman are way more honest than bass fisherman as a whole when it comes to tourneys. For the most part the only people that has a problem with crappie tourneys are the ones that fish bass tourneys because of the trust system. So most everything you posted does not apply to crappie tourneys. And mostly crappie tourneys are laid back and have way more FUN and meeting new people.
How about Ky barkley lake, Barren River Lake and Green river lake for the three to start out. Just a thought
:Rofl ... yeah, that's one of the problems ... our lakes & our members are scattered around the state so much, that even picking 3 lakes to have the tourneys is going to exclude a lot of people (due to travel time/expenses). Take me, for example : Green is over 2hrs away, Barren ~ 2.5hrs, and KY/Barkley is 3.5 to 4+hrs away (depending on launch area).Quote:
Originally Posted by buffalo13
Now, take you for example : what would be your say on having Green, Cumberland, & Taylorsville lakes as the 3 lakes to start out with ?? :Doh: Or, perhaps ... Herrington, Cave Run, & Cedar Creek ??
The number of boats per tourny x's entry fee ... divided by the number of places paid (1st only/ winner take all ... or 1st @50% - 2nd @ 30% - 3rd @ 20%) may not be a big enough draw to get the participation level high enough to justify the cost per participant. Then you'd have to figure on having a member appear at "every" scheduled tourney ... to officiate, hold the entry fees, measure/weigh the fish, etc. (whether they fished or not). Not to mention whether or not the officiating member would be compensated for their appearance (free entry if fishing, or a percentage of the winnings whether they placed or not, or some other form of compensation).
Not trying to be a downer on this idea .... just bringing up some points to ponder & discuss. We'd also have to discuss the rules/regs necessary.
... cp :kewl
I would like to say a few things but it would be to long on here so it will be short and to the point.
First, IF we were to have these tournaments, i do have a scale for weighing fish and i don't mine doing it, if, no one objects. I would not want to be compensated for doing it. To me, it would not be about the money.
Because of the members and lakes being scattered, the only way to be fair about it is to have the tourneys on both sides. For example, ONLY EXAMPLE, first at Cumberland, Second at KY/Barkley, Third at Green, Fourth at Barren, Fifth at Taylorsville, Sixth at Nolin, ect......... Interstate 65 about splits the state. Scheduling would be one on that side and one on this side, so that way it would fair for most members with travel times.
The original ideal was to look at starting a club but trying out the tourneys first, which is a good ideal. But if some one is going to fish these tourneys JUST for the money or think they will make back what it has cost them to come to a tourney. Well that's not going to happen. Unless we get 40 boats or more, then maybe. I have fished bass, crappie and even catfish tourneys. Been in several clubs. I can count on one hand, when i have made back what i spent. If you do win some money, well it just helps covers some.
For me to fish these tourneys would not be about the money. For me, i love to crappie fish. I love going to new lakes. I like seeing all my buddy's, talking, cutting up and picking on each other and meeting new one's. And if i did win some money, it would just be a bonus. Just my :twocents.....
What about 2 divisions with a fall classic somewhere in between. western and eastern. Just throwing out ideas. Example KY/Barkley, Barren, Green and Taylorsville, Cave Run, Herrington. With the Classic at Cumberland. Center of state somewhat. Again just throwing out ideas.
chucky you are right if it is all about the money. then this aint for you. and i think everyone is blowing it up way to much to fast. i do like the first ideal, fish 2 or 3 tourneys just to see how many is interested. but you know i am in no matter how it goes.
and for the ones that doesnt know t.slabseeker and slabslayer1 it is worth fishing just to watch the show they put on at the end.
That's exactly what this thread is for .... throwing out ideas !!Quote:
Originally Posted by buffalo13
I don't know about "divisions" ... as that would seem to indicate that only members from that "area" would be able to fish that division's lakes. There may well be some that would travel the distances to fish a particular lake, even if it weren't on their side of the dividing line. Chucky's idea of having the "lakes" chosen, first in one area & then the next in the other, would preclude any need for "divisions" ... as I assume they'd be open to anyone, from anywhere, willing to travel to that particular lake.
The only ruling that I would insist on having for these tourneys, is that at least one person in any participating boat must be a Crappie.com member !! Any other rules or considerations could be voted on, in a poll, if need be.
I also don't see a need for a "classic" ... unless or until we have a functioning club, and more than 3 tourneys/year. And the tourneys should not be scheduled to interfere with the current events that are ongoing annually (Spring Fling/Fall Brawl @ Green - Spring/Fall Shindigs @ Ky Lake). And we might even have to take into consideration the CUSA & CKCA events, since some of our members are involved in those "clubs/events", as well.
Keep the ideas flowing !! The more concerns we address, the better chance we'll have to have greater participation & a fair/clean/well run tourney trail.
... cp :kewl
maybe IF there is a tourney maybe we should have it where most of the people will go to. that way we might have a better ideal of what people are wanting to do going forward. and as far as rules i dont see anything wrong with crappie usa rules.
I know nothing about rules of crappie tournaments (heck i dont know much about crappie fishing)but if you all can get things worked out i would be willing to help do what ever i could.
I like the 2 divisions idea, but think we should divide it differently. I propose we let all the Louisville Basketball fans fish in 1 division and all the UK Basketball fans fish the other. I will graciously volunteer to be the 1 Louisville fan (just during the tournaments) if the money's right. :Rofl
You TRAITOR!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiskers
Don't know if that ideal will work either. Louisville tourneys may be kinda small, 2-5 boats :Rofl. (JK)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiskers
I guess we already have our club and didn't realize it. One thing that we all have in common and one of the bylaws being that a member has to be in each boat during a tournament. "Crappie.com Fishing Club Kentucky Chapter" or some other cooler name :Rofl.
Two divisions could possibly work that was stated by buffalo13. Some members may not be able to afford to travel much and this would keep travel to a minimum. But we would have to elect one person from each division to officiate the tourney. Start with 3 tourneys for each division but i would not schedule them on the same weekend so that if someone from either side wanted to attend any of the tourneys, they could. Be open to any crappie.com members from Florida to California if they wanted to come.
If we possibly looking at doing a fish-off or classic then we need to look at moving towards that direction, even starting out. We either need to do members dues (what ever the amount is) or do a 80/20 on the payouts at the tourneys. The 20% from each tourney or dues, or both would go towards the "classic". We could get a first and second place trophy and the rest go towards payouts. Start with the 3 tourneys on each side and if they go well, then add three more and then so on. At the end, vote on three lakes centered in the middle of the state for the Classic and then vote. Lake with the most votes wins.
Wish there was a way that we could all just get together to discuss this. We could work it all out in a day. The one thing i have seen in clubs starting out that usually upsets people the most is that the rules or bylaws are always getting changed. If this is going to work then we need to try and get it right the first time. This is just my thoughts and suggestions.
And if it don't work out and there is money left from the tourneys, then we all just pile in our cars with our families and head to the closest buffetrotfl.
We can get with the fj tourney in MS to check on some of there rules and others as well. Main thing is to still have fun!!
i agree with you chucky, about the rule changing. I think that rules is something that needs to be voted on by everybody and once they are set CANT BE CHANGED UNTIL BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT YEARS TOURNEYS. but as you know most of the rules are cut and dry and most people like. only a couple that some people have a problem with.
maybe we could work with the ckca and fish the same lakes as them. Then members could fish both. Also we might get some new members from them and grow our group. Just a thought. Also maybe we could schedule a meeting one weekend to talk and work out all the details. Maybe a restaurant some where. But count me in anyway.
When the CKCA first started i tried to get them to become members here at crappie.com. Even when David and Ricky took over after Freddy left they still didn't become members. I used to post every tournament they had but when i saw that they were not going to support crappie.com, i quit posting the tourneys. David and Ricky are good fellows but the members have decline after the first couple of years. First and second year we had about 32-38 members. Last time i looked, there was 18 and yes, i am still a member. Haven't fished any tourneys except a couple of the summer night ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by High Bridge Hooker
Looking at a map and top rated crappie lakes in the state. There are around 18 lakes in 3 regions east, central, west. Each with about 6 good lakes. It would be nice to schedule a couple in each region {open to ALL members} and the have 1 at green which is about the center of the state. This could be our FALL BRAWL get together. Maybe each region could have a SPRING FLING say at ky lake, Cumberland, Dewey all top rated lakes similar to what we do now at green and ky. It would give us a chance to travel to new lakes and meet new people. Schedule each region tournament on different days so all members could attend if they wish. I would be willing to help any way possible and fish out of the central zone. Who is interested in helping list your name and zone. Maybe crappie papy can set something up.
We joined in the fall and fished 2 tournaments they had 7 boats at each. We were looking for a place to fish and make friends. Don't care about the money. But I think they do need some different rules like a set rule on pay backs. I have several friends who fish small bass tournaments for the friendship. I think they would switch to crappie club if available. I fished a bass club for years and enjoyed it very much made lots of new friends. I hope we can get something started. My wife and I fish about every weekend, and would love the friendships we could make.
Like slabeye, crappieusa has about the best set of "standard" rules for a crappie tournament there is. It covers all the basics. But like buffalo13 said, no matter what, still have fun.
Crappie USA :: 2013 Tournament Rules & Regulations
That's why i joined the CKCA the first year they started and been a member ever since. Its was not for the money but fishing new lakes and meeting people. Slabeye can test to this, one year they scheduled a tourney at Dale hollow. First everyone was coming, was looking at about 15-18 boats. A few of us went down on Fri. Got cabins/rooms. Sat morning there were 5 boats in the parking lot. We didn't go home, we all fished. Why, because that's want we loved to do.
No one even made enough money to cover the gas down and back. We found out later the rest didn't come because it was either to far or it was not enough money for their time.
I don't think we would schedule any tournaments during any spring or fall crappie.com event. Its all ready a job to get everything ready, catch fish, cook fish and get to talk to everybody. Our events is mainly for us to get together, see all our friends, meet the new members and just B.S for awhile.
right you are chucky, i only fished the first year in ckca i fished 6 or 7 out of the 9 that year. and i think at the 3 or so tourney at green there was 15 to 20 boats at all of them. around 10 the 2 at cumberland 5 at dale and 6 at nolin.. i missed the ones at taylorsville because of work so dont know how many was there.
The reason i stop fishing them was because of all the rule changes made and that would have been fine with me but there was no vote. That is why i think a vote is very important for at least some of the rules. MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS ABOUT LAUNCHING.
I like the Crappie U.S.A. rules. If you want to end up with alot of money after fishing crappie tourneys you better have plenty before you start.
I agree on the rule changes my biggest problem. Also their website is not kept updated it still doesn't show results of 10/26/2013 tournament. And the fact there is no vote on the rule changes.