This just keeps getting interesting...
NEW Humminbird ION and ONIX Series Units
ION... http://www.humminbird.com/ion/
ONIX... http://www.humminbird.com/onix/
Rickie
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This just keeps getting interesting...
NEW Humminbird ION and ONIX Series Units
ION... http://www.humminbird.com/ion/
ONIX... http://www.humminbird.com/onix/
Rickie
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Humminbird® Unveils Most Powerful Electronics Yet
Humminbird ONIX and ION bring bluewater and freshwater anglers unparalleled power via user-friendly Cross Touch™ technology
FT. LAUDERDALE, FL. (October 31, 2013) – Besides creating leading-edge products like 360 Imaging™, Humminbird® engineers have also been hard at work over the past two years developing a radical new platform that changes everything you know about fishing electronics.
Please welcome ONIX and ION, introduced today, Thursday, October 31st, at the Ft. Lauderdale International Boat Show. (http://www.showmanagement.com/fort_lauderdale/event/)
“Humminbird ONIX and ION offer a rich user interface that is completely customizable to the individual needs of anglers and boaters, while remaining extremely easy-to-use via a full complement of multi-touch capabilities,” says Dale Logue, Director of Marketing, Humminbird. “The included feature list and available add-ons is unparalleled in the industry and make the units the most versatile, powerful and user friendly on the water.”
At the core of the new units, users will discover all the advantages of powerful Humminbird sonar, advanced navigation and Humminbird imaging technologies right at their fingertips, courtesy of a radical new take on Touch Screen operation called Cross Touch™.
While some touch units limit operation to finger pointing, Humminbird’s Cross Touch offers Multi-Gesture Control, which lets users navigate menus and activate features with a tap, swipe or pinch. Cross Touch also minimizes false touches from splashing water.
From marking waypoints with your finger, naming those waypoints via a virtual keyboard, to zooming in on fish-holding structure or chart locations for a better look, or swiping and dragging screens to create custom views, fishfinder use has never been more intuitive than this.
But ONIX And ION are more than touch screen units. They also feature redundant, traditional touchpad controls for complete control in bad weather.
Humminbird ONIX
The ONIX family currently comprises four models, offering anglers the benefits of powerful Cross Touch with the sonar, imaging and navigation features they need most. All units feature 1024H x 768V best-in-class screen resolution on 10.4- or 8.4-inch high-definition XGA LCD Touch Displays with multi-gesture support and bright graphics readable in harsh sunlight.
Features
· HD Side Imaging/HD Down Imaging (ONIX 8 SI & ONIX 10 SI)
· DualBeam PLUS Sonar w/SwitchFire
· Digital Signal Processing (DSP)
· Internal Precision GPS
· Built-In Tri-Fuel Cartography, including Navionics®, C-MAP® by Jeppesen® and Humminbird Charts
· Dual SD Card Slots
Add-Ons
· Humminbird AutoChart™
· C-MAP® 4D High Resolution Bathymetry by Jeppesen®
· Navionics® Gold/HotMaps
· Navionics® Platinum+
· Humminbird LakeMaster Digital GPS Charts
· Minn Kota® i-Pilot® Link™
· Low, Medium or High-Frequency CHIRP, exclusive to Humminbird
· 360 Imaging™
· RADAR
· AIS
· IP Marine Camera
Humminbird ION
Humminbird ION10 and ION12 multi-function displays bring bluewater anglers the centerpiece for building an expandable platform of networked devices and technologies—and viewing all via the ION’s high-resolution, easy-to-use 10.4- or 12.1-inch high-definition XGA LCD Touch Displays. From Side Imaging, Down Imaging, 360 Imaging, black box CHIRP broadband sonar to IP cameras, there’s full NMEA 0183/2000 compatibility to integrate, control and monitor the data you need to catch more fish and stay safe on the water.
Users can customize their ION platform to include Humminbird RADAR, Autopilot, wireless connectivity, even a built-in web browser to monitor weather and stay connected miles from the dock. Included TriFuel Cartography gives both ION and ONIX users exclusive access to Navionics®, C-MAP® by Jeppesen® and Humminbird base maps out of the box. Users can also add on AutoChart to map their own waters, state-of-the-art C-MAP 4D High Resolution Bathymetry by Jeppesen or Navionics Gold/HotMaps and Platinum+.
Humminbird® Unveils Most Powerful Electronics Yet
Humminbird ONIX and ION bring bluewater and freshwater anglers unparalleled power via user-friendly Cross Touch™ technology
FT. LAUDERDALE, FL. (October 31, 2013) – Besides creating leading-edge products like 360 Imaging™, Humminbird® engineers have also been hard at work over the past two years developing a radical new platform that changes everything you know about fishing electronics.
Please welcome ONIX and ION, introduced today, Thursday, October 31st, at the Ft. Lauderdale International Boat Show. (Fort Lauderdale International Boat Show 2013)
“Humminbird ONIX and ION offer a rich user interface that is completely customizable to the individual needs of anglers and boaters, while remaining extremely easy-to-use via a full complement of multi-touch capabilities,” says Dale Logue, Director of Marketing, Humminbird. “The included feature list and available add-ons is unparalleled in the industry and make the units the most versatile, powerful and user friendly on the water.”
At the core of the new units, users will discover all the advantages of powerful Humminbird sonar, advanced navigation and Humminbird imaging technologies right at their fingertips, courtesy of a radical new take on Touch Screen operation called Cross Touch™.
While some touch units limit operation to finger pointing, Humminbird’s Cross Touch offers Multi-Gesture Control, which lets users navigate menus and activate features with a tap, swipe or pinch. Cross Touch also minimizes false touches from splashing water.
From marking waypoints with your finger, naming those waypoints via a virtual keyboard, to zooming in on fish-holding structure or chart locations for a better look, or swiping and dragging screens to create custom views, fishfinder use has never been more intuitive than this.
But ONIX And ION are more than touch screen units. They also feature redundant, traditional touchpad controls for complete control in bad weather.
Humminbird ONIX
The ONIX family currently comprises four models, offering anglers the benefits of powerful Cross Touch with the sonar, imaging and navigation features they need most. All units feature 1024H x 768V best-in-class screen resolution on 10.4- or 8.4-inch high-definition XGA LCD Touch Displays with multi-gesture support and bright graphics readable in harsh sunlight.
Features
· HD Side Imaging/HD Down Imaging (ONIX 8 SI & ONIX 10 SI)
· DualBeam PLUS Sonar w/SwitchFire
· Digital Signal Processing (DSP)
· Internal Precision GPS
· Built-In Tri-Fuel Cartography, including Navionics®, C-MAP® by Jeppesen® and Humminbird Charts
· Dual SD Card Slots
Add-Ons
· Humminbird AutoChart™
· C-MAP® 4D High Resolution Bathymetry by Jeppesen®
· Navionics® Gold/HotMaps
· Navionics® Platinum+
· Humminbird LakeMaster Digital GPS Charts
· Minn Kota® i-Pilot® Link™
· Low, Medium or High-Frequency CHIRP, exclusive to Humminbird
· 360 Imaging™
· RADAR
· AIS
· IP Marine Camera
Humminbird ION
Humminbird ION10 and ION12 multi-function displays bring bluewater anglers the centerpiece for building an expandable platform of networked devices and technologies—and viewing all via the ION’s high-resolution, easy-to-use 10.4- or 12.1-inch high-definition XGA LCD Touch Displays. From Side Imaging, Down Imaging, 360 Imaging, black box CHIRP broadband sonar to IP cameras, there’s full NMEA 0183/2000 compatibility to integrate, control and monitor the data you need to catch more fish and stay safe on the water.
Users can customize their ION platform to include Humminbird RADAR, Autopilot, wireless connectivity, even a built-in web browser to monitor weather and stay connected miles from the dock. Included TriFuel Cartography gives both ION and ONIX users exclusive access to Navionics®, C-MAP® by Jeppesen® and Humminbird base maps out of the box. Users can also add on AutoChart to map their own waters, state-of-the-art C-MAP 4D High Resolution Bathymetry by Jeppesen or Navionics Gold/HotMaps and Platinum+.
Stay tuned...
Rickie
No white box readouts...!!
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Rickie
Wireless browser - built in...(ION series)...
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Rickie
Rickie, I guess the ONIX would be more to the liking of the crappie fisherman. $2700.00 for the 8" is a weeeee bit over my budget. I really like the looks and the Touch & Button feature.
It looks like HB is stepping up.
One or two operas and a ballet should get it done! :RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by Don G
From BBC, looks like the Ion may just be new to the US. The touch screen may be a new addition to the unit though. Sure looks the same.
Panbo: The Marine Electronics Hub: Geonav G12, another new MFD!
Ok guys I'll buy that old outdated 1198 hd S/I unit from you i'll pay top dollar yes i'll give you $500 for it .
This really is a re-branded Geonav unit. Remember when HB announced that they were dropping the Geonav units a year or so ago. In comes the HB version. This isn't going to be a bass/crappie fishing unit, unless you are fishing for Sea bass and using crappie for bait. rotfl And these units are not compatible with current HB units.
Panbo: The Marine Electronics Hub: Geonav G12, another new MFD!
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Sorry, just noticed justin posted the same thing. 2009 technology with a new Bezel that says HB.
Looks like it has the Lowrance type connectors on the back. That might make some HB users unhappy, as it's been mentioned before. They really are superior (IMO) and protect the pins from being damaged.
So is that a dedicated DI crystal or are they still getting di from si?
If dedicated DI, has the industry figured out how to eliminate the interference?
Interesting read on BBC. Copied Doug Vahrenburg post, page 5, post 88.
I just got a chance to chat a couple minutes with the Humminbird Experts on the NEW ION and ONIX.
They will NOT be able to Network with the Current Models. Different Networking Systems inside the units. Sorry I misdirected anyone but was told by a reliable source they could. ION can Network only with another ION, ONIX with another ONIX.
BUT there are changes to the Networking these units can do!
* Map Sharing Between the same series ONIX to ONIX or ION to ION. You'll only need 1 Mapping Card for both Units.
* Transducer Sharing: You can buy a Combo Model and a Side Imaging Model and get Side Imaging on both models. Only available in the same series too. But you can buy an 8" SI ONIX and share SI to the 10" ONIX (Non-SI)
* 360 Imaging and iPilot Link will be able to connect via Ethernet
* Wireless Internet can be generated thru WiFi connection at Ports or Via Cellular Devices that provide Hot Spots. Smartphones, iPads, etc.
* ION Series is a black box networking system that is very popular in the Bluewater Boats.
* ONIX Series is more plug and play networking system popular in Fresh and Bluewater Boats.
Stay tuned he had to get back to work as they are slam packed in the both with people asking questions on the new products from Humminbird! Said he would give me the full run down once he gets back to the office and things settle back down.
Again Sorry for any misdirection on the Networking with Prior Models.
x 2Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
I have my two "vintage" 898's networked and all they share are waypoints. I CAN use the other's transducer or GPS puck and probably some other things, but never have chosen to. You'd think they could share waypoints between older units and newer units.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinp61
So, if this new unit has DI and Si in one transducer AND there will be no degradation in shallow water SI experience AND share waypoints.... I could see me throwing one on board and moving one of my "vintage" units to the kayak permanently. Especially since the 360 will network with both "vintage" and Onix.
We need to remember that the xx99's are still yet to be released...which will be more in tune and compatible with existing units...
As someone mentioned on 1 of the other boards..
There's a reason these ION and ONIX series units were released at a "blue water" boat show...and not at ICast...
While there may be good applications in freshwater...these series units are marketed toward big water boats...
Rickie
i dont need a new onix l just want one:crazy:Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
When will Minn kota come out with Terrova with built in HB si transducer?
Now hopefully the updates will work in less than a year :)
....Bill
Getting tidbits of info...(on the new "all in one" xducer for the ONIX)...
Sonar
HD Side Imaging/HD Down Imaging 180° coverage
455kHz / (2) 86° @ -10db
800kHz / (2) 45° @ -10db
Digital Signal Processing (DSP) DualBeam PLUS w/ SwitchFire
200kHz / 20° @ -10db
83kHz / 60° @ -10db
Depth: 1500', 5000'*
8000W (PTP), 1000W (RMS)**
Precision GPS
Built-In Cartography: TriFuel
DUAL SD CARD SLOTS - Use one slot for advanced cartography. Use the other to save screenshots, sonar recordings and waypoints
*Optional 50 kHz transducers available for extreme deepwater use.
**To obtain 1000W, optional deepwater transducer required.
Rickie
That doesn't sound like a dedicated DI crystal to me. I was hoping for a dedicated DI crystal at a different frequency than SI.
Here's some added info posted by a JO rep at The Hull Truth...
QUOTE: (pieces of several separate posts)
The new Humminbird ION/ONIX units are a totally new design. The ONIX has built in sonar and GPS (including internal GPS antennae) and comes with our new “All in One” ducer that has Side Imaging crystals, down imaging crystal and 2D sonar as well as temp.
The sonar is digital...
The new "all in one" is not compatible with legacy product.The HDSI is compatible with ONIX with adapter cable.
UNQUOTE:
So the ONIX can use the current XHS 9 HDSI 180 T (with an adapter cable)...but any of the current HB units (and most likely including the 2014 model xx99 series units) cannot use the new "All In One" xducer...
Rickie
I think the specs given are still a little vague...and maybe incomplete at this time...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stymie
We have the JO rep saying there is a dedicated DI element...and specs posted by DOUG V that don't really mention the dedicated DI element...
I will post more as it becomes available ...(because there may be some that do not follow the other forums)..
Rickie
Rickie, can you explain this a little further. In what way is it compatible?Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
It seems the ION and ONIX use digital processing...whereas, all the other series units use analog processing...(in some form)..Quote:
Originally Posted by Don G
My guess is that the ION and ONIX can read the HDSI xducer analog data...but...but...but...
The current analog units (xx99 and older) cannot read the digital data of the new "All in One" xducer...
This means I cannot simply buy the new "All in One" xducer and my 1197 use it...(darn it lol)...
But I could buy an ONIX and my current HDSI xducer will work with the ONIX...
Rickie
Looks to me like that would be going backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Thanks for your posts. I enjoy your input.
I agree that seems backwards ...in the respect that "why would anyone want to use an old HDSI xducer on a brand new technology ION or ONIX platform...??"Quote:
Originally Posted by Don G
But ...it opens possibilities in my personal experiments...(such as..if the ONIX will read my analog HDSI, then the ONIX may also read my XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T and/or read my LSS 2 also...)
Rickie
More info posted by Doug V..
QUOTE:
I was told that the ONIX and ION will be Humminbird PC Compatible and can use GPS Data. So you can save the waypoints to SD Card and import into the Onix and Ion.
UNQUOTE
Rickie
:ThumbsUp:ThumbsUpQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I think I read somewhere where Jason Halfen said there was a dedicated DI as well, but when you look at the specs, they sure seem to imply use of the same crystals.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Also, if it can use either transducer, that would imply the same pin outs. Are there any spare pins on the current connector?
of course, they could plan to sell a pig tail to adapt the current transducer to the new unit but I just don't see a big market for that.
You might be right but I'd of thought that the digitizing of the signals would occur in the control head.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I agree...I just don't see how a piezo can be "digital"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stymie
Also I think the new series ION and ONIX have different (and better) cable connectors...which would explain why an adapter cable is necessary for hookin up an HDSI to the ONIX...
Rickie
The information I have is that the new transducers will feature a dedicated DI element.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
My offer still stands on those old outdated 1198's your going to put in a closet somewhere to collect dust:popcorn