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If it was like last time the goverment shut down means Corps will lock gates on all parks leading to boat ramps!:mad: We paid for yearly passes to use and will probably be locked out till this is over. That is a crock to lock us out of the boat ramps.:twocents
Yea it's just a ploy to try to make you say yea the government needs more money.
If those "people" on capitol hill can't do THEIR job and figure out how to make the government operate and are so selfish to allow the government to shutdown, every last one of them should be removed from office.
I'd like to take a big stick and a can of whoop azz up there and I bet I could make the government run!! :bash If we would all vote them out and get those high dollar pensions removed, we could all retire and fish more!!
Yup, I remember that, and travelling across Minn. where all the rest areas were closed too. What a mess.
SO SAD.....Im not big on politics, but I just cant' make myself understand some of the things we do. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping a neighbor, but I just can't figure out why we can't find money to spend in our own country, but can make a parking lot out of another country and then give them money to rebuild....Thats just one small example...Dunno,, just don't make no dam sense to me.....
So, does this mean that the COE campgrounds are closed and therefore no access to the boat ramps there? Why? What about state parks, are they closed also?
Your exactly right. My buddy left to go hunting this am and had to turn back around and go home, Felthensal refuge in Crossett. Any government owned facilities is how I understood it
I heard from a COE employee they would go in and shut down the parks before being sent home. I think it will just be Federal Goverment Parks not State , but don't bet on anything. :dono
My take on Obama Care is all the folks that work for the goverment , politicans , and other folks covered by our tax dollars should be forced into the same plan and see how many vote for it ! :twocents
I told my self I would stay out of this today. But, the house did propose that congress would not be exempt from the same health care as the population. Mr. Reid shot that down too. You don't hear much about that.
DP
I just hope these idiots have this worked out by the 18th cause I have a 10 day stay booked at carter cove and I don't want to miss it :fish
gubers all of them
I'll bet the fish of Lake Nimrod are voting for more Gov't shutdowns. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
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Originally Posted by arkcrappie
Thats exactly what I have been telling everyone who would listen. Really what more does Congress have to do other than pass a budget. I say if you cant do your job you should be fired. If I did not do my job for the last 6 years I would be fired.
I say vote against every one of them that has an opponent in the next election! They just don't get it! And while I'm on my soapbox, I think Congress, and all the rest of the government, including the executive branch ought to have to have the same durn insurance everyone of us taxpayers has, no more, no less. It's easy to pass legislation from an ivory tower! See there, you done got me started!
My wife is a government employee. She has to go to work today for 4 hours to shut down her office. I figure it would be the same for the COE.
As far as government employees and Obama care. If you are a regular government employee you fall under the provisions of Obama care. Congress and their aids are trying to wiggle out of it. I agree 100% that politicians and aids should fall under the same rules. They signed it into law so they should have to follow it as well.
I guess the. 90% that don't vote MIGHT wake up now and realize that their vote DOES count !!!!!
Don't count on it. That's what I thought last year, and man was I wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
"Some people work for a living some people vote for a living"
Sad thing is they will vote these no good crooks right back into office come election time.
My wife is a government employee and that all our income. May have to dig up the back yard if it go to long. I don't want obamacare either way. But what good for me should be good for the them (government) also. Now every state boat ramp will be full of knucklehead like me.
Hey nimrod. Is there anywhere you can launch? Iron bridge? The gravel ramp on south side?
State parks should not be affected.Quote:
Originally Posted by olddude
You know people talk about govt employees and most assume they make big money, but most of them I know fall in the lower salary range. 1 week off of work can put a real hurting on the family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gindog
My heart goes out to those like mdperson and Gindog and their families. They get caught up in a mess that was none of their doing, and suffer the most because of partisan politics. I was just surfing the internet reading about the shutdown and saw a photo of a guy standing in front of the capitol in D.C. that said something like "Congress, do your job so I can do mine!" Obviously, a federal employee who got swept up in this mess. I bet our politicians continue to receive their paychecks, oblivious to what missing a regular weekly paycheck does to the working class! I say vote'em all out of office and the sooner the better! When's the next election?
Only thing scary about that is they may join the 51% of the "uninformed" voters. Now where did I put my Obamaphone?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
DP
I am with you there Md on not making the big bucks. But I not to sure how come they can close what we pay for with out taxs. Now I know they are the Government but we pay for it and I know that there someone standing at the gates keep us out of the parks. What the different being at gate stoping you from going in or let you in and make that dollar at the gate.:scratchhead Most people live payday to payday, I know there time we do. That why we eat fish about 2 time a week if I catch them. I seen this on the www2 vet
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World War II veterans knock down police barriers to attend memorial on the National Mall; Update: Did a congressman lead the vets through the barricade? | Twitchy
Should be possiable if you don't mind dirt roads. Crock locking up ramps we have already paid to use!:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by FIRECAMP
I don't think that this will hurt the tournament at Dardenelle on the 12th.
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Originally Posted by LRJoe1
Shouldn't. Dardanelle is State, at least as far as the launch ramps I've been to. Pretty sure Ouita is a state ramp. I know the State Park is state.
you might want to try the last 8years as far as Congress goes !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mdperson
You sure about that buddy? :RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by ski trip
Just remember, if its a COE lake it will be closed. If there is a state park at the COE lake, you can still camp but the boat ramps will be closed. Thats what they are doing to the Miss Big 4.
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Originally Posted by Cmj
Let's see......ummm,......uh.....well........not sure! :crazy:
I wonder if this means there are no federal game wardens out???????????????:biggrin
Federal Wardens are conducting business as usual according to a buddy at work. Does this mean no fishing on the lakes, or just some boat ramps are closed?Quote:
Originally Posted by arkcrappie
It's my understanding that the COE parks are closed, not the lakes so if there is a AGFC ramp on the lake outside the Corp parks they will be open.
camp grounds on lake Greason are closed but all ramps are still open as of this evening.
Ozan Point campground at Degray is closed, but the ramp is open. All campgrounds & ramp at Alpine Ridge were open as of this evening, but not sure if any campers can move in or just the ones there get to stay. Brushy campground & ramp are fully open, neither are operated by the Feds or state. Not sure what's going on around the rest of the lake.
Here is a press release the AGFC is putting out. It is all that I know.
Shutdown curtails camping, hunting and fishing on federal landsLITTLE ROCK
– The federal government shutdown is affecting fishing and hunting on U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service National Wildlife Refuges and camping on U.S. Army Corps of Engineers projects in Arkansas. The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission is reminding anglers, hunters, hikers, campers and others that the federal shutdown could change their plans.AGFC Director Mike Knoedl said the federal government shutdown could influence people’s outdoor recreation plans in Arkansas. “If you’re heading for federal wildlife refuges to scout, hunt or fish, that activity is prohibited,” Knoedl said. “Arkansas Game and Fish Commission lands will remain open and our officers will be on duty,” he added.USFWS land and facilities are closed due to the lapse in appropriation for 2014. For more information on the shutdown, go to*http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/index.cfm.The Little Rock District, Corps of Engineers is preparing for the closure of all Corps-operated campgrounds and day-use parks, affected recreation areas will not reopen until after the shutdown is lifted. Corps parks leased to partner agencies and concessionaires will remain open, but cannot be supported by the Corps while the shutdown is in place. Campers who are on site prior to the shutdown going into effect will be required to vacate campgrounds not later than 8 p.m. on Oct. 2.If there is not a resolution before next week, there will be no hunting allowed within the Buffalo National River boundary. That could possibly affect the elk hunt for next week.Gates to all U.S. Forest Service developed areas will be locked where applicable.* However, the forests will remain open to public recreation.Knoedl said boat ramps may also be closed, which impacts access to Corps lakes. “Closures may include visitor centers and gates on all access points,” he said. Wildlife management areas leased by the AGFC on Corps property will be open and managed by the AGFC. Boat launch ramps inside Corps campgrounds will be inaccessible. All other launch ramps will be open.Before heading out to your favorite Arkansas Corps lake, go to*Headquarters U.S. Army Corps of Engineers or call*501-324-5551*to find out about public access.
For us that lack computer savy.How hard would it be to get a list of open and closed ramps on Arkansas Lakes maybe make this a sticky thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by D10