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Gents,
I think most agree that lowrance has the down image edge on units that have dedicated di vs humminbirds use of combining side scan to create a down scan view.
But who has the best purely dedicated down scan? I refer to units that do not have side image capabilities. ie lowrance elite 5 or 7 vs humminbird
858 ci or 788, 597 hd ci?
Ford v/s Chevy again. I have a bird DI unit and it works nicely for me. If Low would have had the new 7 inch di units when I was looking I would have given them a really good look.
I had an Elite 5 and was not impressed, I have seen some very good images from the Elite 7 though.
Lowrance!
elaborate !
There are many reasons in my opinion, but to make it simple. Do a search, read all the issues everyone besides a select few are having with the HB's.. Then see how many problems you find about the Lowrance. I had HB on my boats for years, from low to mid level graphs. Got tired of not getting what I wanted out of them, switched to Lowrance and wish I'd had done many dollars ago.
you get dual beam 2d as well as DI with the HB DI units.
If I were to get a dedicated DI unit I would seriously consider the 858 and use the DI wide transducer. That way you would still have the 83/200 2D.
If anyone has one set up like this I would like to hear some feedback about how you like it.
I have the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T on my 1197c SI Combo...(but that's another story)...Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
:biggrin
Like Bob said...I would also agree...and suggest one use the DI xducer that has the 83/200kHz Dual Beam with a 858 DI or larger..
I still don't understand why HB put such "wimpy" small 2d cone angles in the XNT 9 DI T ...:dono
Rickie
http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps9732c0e0.jpg humminbird 597 hd/Di .If you can get some people to post pictures from comparable Lawrence units I've got many more 597 pictures to compare.(i also like to see those hds pictures pop up from Kentucky lake.i like comparing my 998 si to them
Lowrance Quality ControlQuote:
Originally Posted by Locator79
KOSMO, how is the 360 working out? And the latest updates?
brettw, get your hands on any of the units you're interested in, push the buttons and buy what works best for you. Both companies make great units, both companies have their issues and both companies have their nut swingers that will swear theirs is the greatest. Buy what YOU like and get out on the water and enjoy.
Justinnp61. ...i won't lie to you.when i first got the 360 it was all wackey ..don't no uf i will ever forgive humminbird for that. but now my 360 rules..if Im fishing its in the water and running.I tellyou this if a person likes to slow troll for crappie that trolling motor 360 mount will be the best thing everhttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psaf7b41fd.png
360 running in shallow water. the 360 also has a si/Di mold that's really coolhttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psb8136c8b.png
kosmo...you have some of the best 360 images I've seen on any of the forums...(and I watch all of them)...
Way to go kosmo....great work...
:ThumbsUp
Rickie
And BTW...all of you...
Can we keep this thread on topic and discuss features (and even lack of features)...without slipping into the "Brand loyalty crap" again...??
(and yes, any mention of whichever "the other brand" in a negative wording intent...counts as "brand loyalty crap"...)
It's a shame mod's are having to lock potential informative threads....
Rickie
Im not sure if Im on topic with this post or not but if a person was inklind to they for not a hole lot of money turn a humminbird si unit into sort of a hybrid with a switch and di transducer. then you could have (imo) the best si and pretty decent Di and the only forward looking unit between lowrace and humminbird.but that 360 will cost a little. here's a picture with my 998 using a dedicated Di.http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps6633ab63.png
Kosmo,
I may have asked you this before but Exactly what switch and DI transducer are you using? What is the set up? My 998 came with an extra split cable, i assume it's for an extra transducer.
thanks again,
maybe this is the way to go for me. i have the 998c hd si
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Originally Posted by kosmo
Brettw-presently Im running my stock si transducer tilted 60°.i have a (as- sidb y cable) no switch installed. Im using a second transducer to receive my 2d.this is not the only option though .It just depends on how you want to use your unit.humminbird has dedicated Di transducers than can be used. You could do that and install a humminbird transducer switch to toggle between the dedicated Di transducer and the stock si transducer.or you could just plug a dedicated Di transducer strait into the back of your 998 replacing the si transducer but you wouldn't have si with that option.http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...pse0054ac7.png
Here's a link to humminbird forum.that you need to view before you make any decisions. also if your going to buy any parts i recomhttp://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=5388.msg36830;topicseen#newmend universall mania there the best place
Brett.. The extra Y cable that came with your 998 is the AS YC cable and intended for use if you wanted to use an advanced accessory like the Weather Sense Module or Radar and the external GPS puck at the same time ...
You will have 2 choices running a DI xducer on your unit...
XNT 9 DI T (200kHz 28° 2d cone + 455kHz 16° 2d cone + 455KHz 75° DI fan + 800kHz 45° DI fan)..
XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T (83kHz 60° 2d cone + 200kHz 20° 2d cone + 455kHz 75° DI fan + 800kHz 45° DI fan)...
The XNT 9 DI T is a transom mount with included transom bracket hardware ...
The XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T is a TM mount with included TM mounting hardware ...
I chose the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T because of the larger 2d cone angles plus this xducer can be used in some of the other xducer testing that I am doing because the 83/200kHz can be used on the "Dual Beam" leg of the AS SIDB Y cable with different xducer's that I test...
You may never use any the other testing xducer's like I am testing but the option is there with the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T if you choose in the future some of the other test xducer setups I am testing...
The only disadvantage with the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T is the housing is different with no "ears" for bolting a bracket mount hardware to...it has slots for the hose clamp to attach it to the foot of the TM..
The TS 3 switch is just for convenience in switching between the stock HDSI xducer setup and the additional DI xducer setup...
I have the TS 3 switch ready and mounted in my boat but have not even used it yet ...but that is simply because I have been plugging xducer's directly into the unit to eliminate possible connection issues with all the xducer testing I do...
The TS 3 switch will make it very convenient in switching between the 2 different xducer setups ...
I would suggest use it...
Rickie
while on the broad subject, I have an lss 2 transducer on the stern, how about I just hook that baby up and use it for my DI !
Using the LSS 2 on the HB is a little more difficult ...as it takes some re-wiring because the connectors are different..Quote:
Originally Posted by brettw
I am in process of testing the LSS 2 DI element thru the the HB now...but it's still in testing stage and not really ready for me to release yet (as far as me recommending it)...
The HB DI xducer hooked to the HB SI ...and the HDSI rotated 60° ...I can already report better DI images than the stock "DI from SI" composite DI images ...
The easier setup is 1 of the DI xducer's as it only takes the DI xducer and the TS 3 switch...
Rickie