Some Judge in Hinds county just issued a TRO stopping open carry in Ms till a hearing on July 8th, aint gona slow me down tho, MS constitution and the US constitution already gave me the right to open carry!!
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Some Judge in Hinds county just issued a TRO stopping open carry in Ms till a hearing on July 8th, aint gona slow me down tho, MS constitution and the US constitution already gave me the right to open carry!!
I bet he's a democrat.
You got it Scott
If people would do their homework, they would know the law has not changed all that much. HB2 simply clarifies certain language in the states constitution regarding what is concealed and what is not. Private land owners and businesses has always reserved the right to allow armed citizens on their premises. I happen to be a concealed carry license holder and former NRA Instructor. I very rarely carry open. I think it doesn't give you the best tactical advantage to carry open in most cases. I've heard comments on MS turning into the Wild West. Not true either. Respoonsible gun owners DO NOT commit crime. Its a fact. Criminals don't want to carry openly for the same reason I mentioned before, it doesn't give them an advantage tactically. That's why they wear three or four pairs of pants hanging to the knees. Plus, you have to be over 21 to legally carry, and most of those engaged in the criminal element of society have committed crimes that disqualify them from owning/possessing firearms by the time they turn 21. So they will continue to illegally carry concealed. I'll end with this. I agree with some "gun control" (control being the operative word) measures suggested. I think some are decent ideas. Problem is, I have yet to meet a criminal that wants to obey the law. So until we address the crux of the issue, we are simply spinning our wheels. SMH
The guy was asking folks if they really wanted drunk folks up in a restaurant with shotguns or something like that. He was nutz.
Judges legislating from the bench...drives me crazy! :banghead:
Me too!!
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by minnerchunker
Had this stood I would have had a sign at my driveway at the store saying NO OPEN CARRY WEAPONS ALOUD, have no problem with concealed carry folks but someone who can not qualify for a conseal carry permit or wont bother I would rather they not be in my business with a sideam on their hip. May get slammed for this but its just me here when we are open, personally think everyone should have to have the enhanced conceal carry permit myself. We already have the right to protect you home, business, and vehicle without any issues why do I need someone binging a gun into my home or business openly, I have the protection there covered.
I can see where this freaks some folks out. I remember when the CCL license was being debated. We were heading back to the streets of Dodge City again with the "gunslinger law". Of course, that never happened. I'll still conceal my firearm. I don't want to alarm and scare people who are scared of guns and I don't want to advertise that I have a $500, or more, tool on my side to tempt some idiot who wants it. Open carry also takes away my element of surprise. I fully support open carry, if that's what a law abiding citizen wants to do.
If u really want to placard your business, look into how to do it properly Rees...there's a certain way it has to be done to be valid.
That said, I will not patronize businesses that placard. IMO, they are asking to be the target of criminals looking for the easiest targets and one where law abiding citizens are not allowed to carry are less likely to be able to defend themselves.
Do as you feel is right, but I will have to do the same.
Wannabe...
Ps, I conceal for the same reason as Scott, but that's a personal decision. There are valid reasons for either style.
Pss, there is a current debate as to whether the judges injunction has any teeth outside of Hinds county. Personally, I doubt it does, but be very careful I you choose to open carry until this settles out to a "norm". Would hate to see a good 2A man or woman get in a jam for not knowing the law or being in a jurisdiction that did not know the law.
Wannabe...
So you arent gonna come in my store and buy from me because I dont want toothless crack heads toting a firearm around openly in my business, not much of a friend I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wannabe...
No, I ain't gonna come in your store because you are choosing to restrict my freedom to protect myself, my family and others. It's not a friend thing, it's a liberty thing. I'm not bad mouthing you, like I said, do what you think is right and I'll respect that, but try to respect my choice as well.
Wannabe...
Meant to say, I ain't coming if you placard.
Wannabe...
thats cool, you conceal carry anyway and it is a friend thing in this case.
If I see a placard, I'm shopping elsewhere.
Placards don't mean much to CC, but you have to make a decision at the door on the open carry. Conceal carry is something that I keep to myself
regardless of what a placard says.........I mean, who's going to know? If it's concealed, nobody knows your carrying unless you tell them. If an alarm
goes off and I'm looked at cross-eyed, I'll just shrug my shoulders and if asked, I'll tell them my pacemaker caused the alarm to go off. Mine goes to
church, weddings, funerals and anywhere else I feel like going. Just the way this Texan does things. (No, I don't have a pacemaker......) And I ain't
gonna open my shirt unless she opens hers first. I normally just smile and keep on walkin'. (Unless she opens her shirt...........of course) I'm all look
and no touch now anyways. Uh........ what was we talkin' 'bout anyways?
I have a carry permit and don't pay attention to those signs.If something goes down I would rather be tried by12 than carried by6.
X2. You is exactly rightQuote:
Originally Posted by jimfish
Have absolutely no prob with folks who have their conceal carry, none whats so ever. to say you wont spend money wherre a store has a placard up is basically shooting yourself in the foot cause you are gonna see em everywhere, be sure not to put any money in the pay boxes at the COE ramps or buy an annual permit, dont go to the courthouse either to get a tag or anything. To say you should be able to open carry in a business or someones home or where ever you want is obsurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredRR
I am done on this subject, not even sure I need a placard cause I think its illegal to have a firearm in a fireworks store anyway due to the FIRE part in the firearm, will do some checking on that.
No such restriction for a fireworks location from the concealed carry laws. Can't say for sure on open carry, but I doubt it.
I don't think it's absurd to choose to support businesses that support the 2A. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed....don't remember reading anything about bearing concealed arms. It's the same principle as freedom of speach. I'd never burn a flag, but the same freedom that allows me to say O is the debil protects me and the flag burner. I support toothless crack heads being able to pack heat just like me....however, once they get a felony conviction, they no longer have the right. And once they pull a weapon on me or mine.....well, it's game on. Now if I'm in a store that says I can't have a weapon, who is gonna win? Me, the guy that tries to follow the law, or the toothless crack head who just happens to have not gotten convicted of that felony yet?
Your store, your rules. My wallet, my money. I think that's fair.
Wannabe...
Well said WB :ThumbsUp
Think you said, correct me ifn I am wrong, that you would continue to conceal carry. What I want to do has no effect on you at all Chris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wannabe...
So I guess you are for open carry at the bank as well??? All this is gonna do is have every cop and every security guard wanting to see your ID, check you age and check to see ifn you have a felony conviction.
All for protecting your family, I do and will protect mine.
Sure hate you wont be fishing Nader no more being as its illegal to open carry there, gonna miss ya for sure.
Cant believe this thread is still here, very political and according to C.C rules isnt supposed to be here.
Yall have a safe 4th!!
Its called moderator discretion........I choose not to move it because it has remained civil and has not gotten out of hand. So chill out and have a good fourth and leave the moding to the mods....It works better that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Btw, you don't have to be a felon to be rejected for a concealed carry. If u have ever had a misdemeanor for a controlled substance you can't have one either. Plenty legal to own the gun but just not legal to carry.
" "Cant believe this thread is still here, very political and according to C.C rules isnt supposed to be here." "
Like other subjects, if you like it you leave it. If you don't, you delete it.
I have an IC-CC permit, I carry everywhere. If working in the yard, it's on my belt, open carry. If a buzzer goes off, dang stainless steel pins in my leg.
As the rule reads now if you have an IC patch on your CC permit or a CC permit. The piece must be conceled. If no permit, it has to be open carry. Yea right, who read that rule. With the IC patch there are very few places that I can't carry. In a courtroom the judge must announce "no weapons", if so the county deputy can't carry either.
I disagree that it has no effect on me. The fact that there's a sign prohibiting open carry makes the business a target, or at least more of a target that the one next door with no sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Under the new law(an the old concealed law). A LEO has no basis in which to detain anyone simply for carrying a weapon. That's been adjudicated repeatedly. And they certainly have no right to demand ID etc. that being said, I disagree with pushing that envelope like many have done. If I'm ever questioned ill happily self identify etc.
I'll be on COE property assuredly. Currently, I have no choice. But I do have choices in other things.
Wannabe...
They don't have the reservoirs signed. Unless you read the fine print. And, I already own them. I'll stick to not patronizing the businesses that will miss my business. In example the ones that are economical conservatives and social liberals. That is about all the Second Amendment supporters can do. Business owners have a right to dictate what happens on their property, and I have a right to shop elsewhere. Oh, and go vote. If ya'll haven't noticed voting has made a huge difference in Mississippi in the last couple of years.
Oh, and a PS....I fully support open carry at the bank and every place else too. I don't think there should be any restriction any where.
Wannabe...
:Rofl:Rofl:RoflWhat the heck is a "moding"????????:RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by "G"
I knew you didn't know :Rofl
Is that sumpin a plumber does when he working on the bathrooms?????:yikes
:Rofl:Rofl
Y'all just need to move to MO. We've always been an open carry state. Municipalities can make ordinances against it but their is no state law prohibiting open carry.
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Originally Posted by rducks123
I think we all have the same thing in mind. But, what we don't want to talk about the real problem. The real problem is some people who are born idiots. Its not their fault, as they were born that way. Others learn the fine cognitive skill (Oxymoron). For those who say anyone should be allowed to carry openly in any circumstance, you should work in an environment like I do. I'm a Security Manager in a casino and let me tell ya, idiots are born daily. I don't want some of them in there, let alone one carrying a firearm. So I'll be the first to start the campaign. Throw away your "No guns allowed" signs and replace the with signs that say, " No Idiots Allowed, All Others Welcome" and problem solved.
You and I both would soon be without a job! Idiots equate to job security, for me anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnerchunker
Ha Ha, keeping idiots out of casinos?
What casino do you work at?