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I believe in the right to own more guns and Cheaper Amunition who is with me.? Is a comprehensive Background check that bad of thing? I am all for keeping guns out of convicted criminals hands too. Other than that we should be able to arm ourselfs to the teeth.:biggrin
A comprehensive background check is not bad it's the hidden checks on you and your family(go through your house and property with out your consent) that go with it thats a bad thing!!!! They(our goverment) are not after your guns or ammo they are after you to control you and find out what they don't already know!!!!(Its about goverment control) The Background check's are not going to stop the crook from stealing a weapon or making one!!! They (the goverment) already know all about you and your family!!! What good is another Background check nothing!!!!
This is the land of the Free!!!!!
You are getting caught up in the sound bites. The democrats idea of a "comprehensive background check" sure isn't the same as my idea. As with most things, the devil is in the details.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePro
I'm afraid that cheap part is a thing of the past. I'm not for giving an inch because it want stop with just the comprehensive background check. Just my two cents.
I see the light now. I just bought a new Gun not to long ago. They took my Driver Lic and checked me out before they would let me buy. How many more checks do we need? Its about time we blame the SOB that pulls the trigger... not the guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie53
Ya know Iv'e been gaining a LIL weight here lately....I Know I'll blame... that fork, spoon, and the fast food chains. They are killing us. Before long we are going to have a back ground check before we can buy a Fork, Spoon, or a hamburger LOL
I just wish people would quit price gouging the ammo. Every time Walmart or Academy gets in a shipment its gone in a matter of hours. Then its for sale on Facebook the next day for 3x the price. If people would stop paying the price they would quit buying them out. Personally i refuse to pay their prices. I only buy it from the store. I'm not in that big a need for ammo to pay triple. As for the rest of it, they should enforce the laws that already exist.:twocents
Preach on Brother Russ.
Remington is making 22's as fast as they can and Uncle Sam is buying them up, go figure.
Hey Wayne, when we left Grizzly after seeing you over there. We stopped by their Walmart and bought a whole bunch of 22 shells. We haven't been able to find hardly any since then.
just a thought , how many bad guy's do you know that would go and buy a gun over the counter and fill out the so called comprehensive background checks they want to pass, just use the laws we have is all they need to do . with 20,000 gun laws on the books now we don't need new ones
Armies of "Old Farts" are going to every Walmart and buying every shipment. They don't know why, they just are. The government is actually not buying .22 bullets.
As for Gun Ownership, it is NOT the "Bill of Needs", it is the "Bill of RIGHTS". I have a RIGHT (NOT a privilege) to own anything I want. There should be no restrictions for any honest law-abiding citizen. It doesn't matter if I NEED a high capacity magazine (I do, actually, I shoot poorly at 3 a.m. at multiple perps breaking into my house), that's immaterial. It ain't about what I need, it's about what I have the RIGHT to own. That's the law. If you want to change the 2nd Amendment, work on it......it can be done, many amendments have been deleted. But till then it's the law!!
And don't start me on background checks to "keep guns out of the hands of the criminally insane"........they have more rights than you do. I have direct experience with this, with my late brother in law. He threatened to kill state cops, his sister, went nuts often.......and judge said every time "sorry, can't lock him up, he has rights".
Therefore, not one single proposed law or regulation would have stopped Columbine, Aurora, Newtown, or any of them. Those guys got guns that none of these laws would have stopped. And every one of them would (and still can) easily pass any background mental check.
Currently, there are thousands of folks who 'flunk' current background checks. NOT ONE OF THEM IS EVER ARRESTED. NONE. Veep Biden has even said "We don't have time to do that". Well, then why propose MORE laws.
I hate to say this, and I'll be labeled an idiot......but here is the true, real, answer. THERE IS NO ANSWER. If you want to have a Free Society, then bad things will happen, repeatedly. If you want Safety, then you can't have a Free Society.
The 2nd Amendment was very clearly written to ensure that the everyday Citizen was effectively armed so that he could jump in at a moment's notice (militia) and assist in repelling an enemy, from without or within. Taking away our RIGHT to own sufficient weapons to do so is unconstitutional. Period.
Truth is, violent crime is way down........mass murder is way down, believe it or not.........we are safer than we've ever been. Laws won't stop anybody, but they'll make me less Free. And I worship Freedom above any kind of Safety, and always will. I served with men who died FOR FREEDOM. I never, ever met a guy who died, or was willing to die, for Safety.
Guns? What Guns? As far as Uncle San knows, I have no guns. This is also why I have loaded my own bullets for years (for the guns I don't own!):biggrin
Hard to reload .22 bullets! (Not sure why, someone ought to make a deal to do so......and get rich!!)
Very eloquently put Buckrub. We have to remember that America was born because our forefathers had the cajones to stand up and fight for their freedom. It was not easy, and success probably seemed like an impossibility. But they were not willing to continue to live under such oppression. Those men had a vision, and they had the GUTS to follow through. What the American people need to remember is that, while hunting, collecting, and pleasure shooting are awesome benefits of the 2nd ammendment and are worth protecting, it was created to ensure that the new government never got too big for it's britches. The administration knows this, it's exactly why they want to take it away. As long as we defend our right with protesting and complaining, we will lose!! The second ammendment was created in the event that ACTION is needed. And ACTION is the only way to defend it. The question is, do we still have enough people that are willing to stand up and fight? I don't think so.
I feel the same way with gasoline.
I think we have a all we need. Let not Pass any new ones because we not live out the old ones.
Most of us are already well armed!:biggrin I think every law abiding citizen with no crimminal record or mental defect should be required to own atleast 1 gun and plenty of ammo.:twocentsQuote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePro
^ What he said. :thumbup:
I tell people all of the time,"If you tell me you are anti-gun then I promise not to use my gun to save your life." As far as the criminals go."No Deals and No Parole." If you do the crime you should do the time. As far as gas goes I look at this way. You have to go to work, fishing or Church Ok. Well if you need a loaf of bread get it while you are either going or coming from one of these trips. If you get home and did not get it do not make a special trip. Do not make special trips to go shopping. Ok a trip to the tackle shop or boat shop will be allowed.
After major stores start hollering about low sales and full shelves the gov will see that the price of gas does come down.:highfive
I believe in peaceful coexistence. My 1911 helps make that a reality. :biggrin
I agree with most, however I think felons should have gun rights restored. Why shouldn't they have the right to self defense? If they are too dangerous to be trusted with a tool, then why the heck are they let out into the streets?
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyJoe
Y'all just wait! Hillary is gonna fix all this when she take over from Obama! :yikes
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I know those that shouldn't have the right but each case is different and should be reviewed on an individual basisQuote:
Originally Posted by BobbyJoe