Vic3 and SI images on a HB DI unit...

Vic...can you explain a little more about how you reconfigured a DI unit to show SI images...??

*Which xducer are you using to do this... ??
*Are you using separate Xducers to get certain images...??
*Which pins did you move to do this...??
*Did you move the pins or reconfigure the wires going to the pins...??
*How does a DI unit show SI images when there are no SI views under the "Views Tab" to select...??
*How does a DI unit show SI images when there is no processor programming to render a SI image..??

Rickie

Rickie:

Vic...can you explain a little more about how you reconfigured a DI unit to show SI images...?? - Yes I can.

*Which xducer are you using to do this...?? -I use a transom mount SI transducer for 797/798 that I bought in Amazon.

*Are you using separate Xducers to get certain images...?? - I use just one SI transducer.

*Which pins did you move to do this...??- very upper and very lower pins.

*Did you move the pins or reconfigure the wires going to the pins...??-I exposed wires in transducer cable, then cut the wire from very upper pin and just connected its inlet end to the wire of very lower pin, and insulated the connection.

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there are no SI views under the "Views Tab" to select...??- I use sonar 2D and DI views for my SI views. I also use Hummviewer in my PC.

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there is no processor programming to render a SI image..?? - I am a piping/mechanical engineer and did not know that it is impossible, I just pluged SI transducer in 385 and it worked. In DI window SI works absolutely the same way as DI with the same settings. In 2D window it was very dark first, but after turning on the switch fair and setting all filters for max it became visible.
Vik.

post some pics if you could

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post some pics if you could

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Would love to make this happen on one of my 858c DI units.........Youtube please on the cable mod and it will get a gzillion hits.....i suspect there will be an "update" that fixes this

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Youtube please on the cable mod and it will get a gzillion hits.....

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I use 10-15 feet of this cable to avoid wave influence. All the images were taken while the waves were up to 2 feet, my small inflated boat was jumping on those waves like a toy, but the images and the bottom line on them are OK. All length of cable is 50 feet, and I use it to take images from ice on big depths to get images closer to the bottom.

OK Vic...more questions if you don't mind...

*Which xducer are you using to do this...?? -I use a transom mount SI transducer for 797/798 that I bought in Amazon.

*Are you using separate Xducers to get certain images...?? - I use just one SI transducer.

*Which pins did you move to do this...??- very upper and very lower pins.

*Did you move the pins or reconfigure the wires going to the pins...??-I exposed wires in transducer cable, then cut the wire from very upper pin and just connected its inlet end to the wire of very lower pin, and insulated the connection. Was there a wire on both the upper pin and the lower pin... and you swapped them...??

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there are no SI views under the "Views Tab" to select...??- I use sonar 2D and DI views for my SI views. I also use Hummviewer in my PC. When your HB unit is set to show a DI view... is the SI image showing on your HB 385 DI unit...or just in Humviewer...??

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there is no processor programming to render a SI image..?? - I am a piping/mechanical engineer and did not know that it is impossible, I just pluged SI transducer in 385 and it worked. In DI window SI works absolutely the same way as DI with the same settings. In 2D window it was very dark first, but after turning on the switch fair and setting all filters for max it became visible. Are there normal SI settings available in the DI unit menu when configured this way...(SI Range, left and right side choices, SI Range Lines)...??
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*Did you move the pins or reconfigure the wires going to the pins...??-I exposed wires in transducer cable, then cut the wire from very upper pin and just connected its inlet end to the wire of very lower pin and insulated the connection. Was there a wire on both the upper pin and the lower pin... and you swapped them...?? -MY cable consist of 30 feet extention cable and 20 feet cable with transducer at the end. I exposed wires on extension cable with 7 pins and 7 wires inside. I cut the wire from very upper pin and connected its inlet end to the lower wire without cutting it.

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there are no SI views under the "Views Tab" to select...??- I use sonar 2D and DI views for my SI views. I also use Hummviewer in my PC. When your HB unit is set to show a DI view... is the SI image showing on your HB 385 DI unit...or just in Humviewer...?? - yes, in DI window it shows right SI side, and in 2D window - left. I use Hummviewer at home reviewing sonar recodings on big PC screen.

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there is no processor programming to render a SI image..?? - I am a piping/mechanical engineer and did not know that it is impossible, I just pluged SI transducer in 385 and it worked. In DI window SI works absolutely the same way as DI with the same settings. In 2D window it was very dark first, but after turning on the switch fair and setting all filters for max it became visible. Are there normal SI settings available in the DI unit menu when configured this way...(SI Range, left and right side choices, SI Range Lines)...?? - yes, all what is available for DI and 2D work for SIs. The only shortige is that there is no palette with black background in 2D window, and one can see only negative SI views in that window. In Hummviewer both sides are OK.
Vik.

Vic...you really have me intrigued here..

*Did you move the pins or reconfigure the wires going to the pins...??-I exposed wires in transducer cable, then cut the wire from very upper pin and just connected its inlet end to the wire of very lower pin and insulated the connection. Was there a wire on both the upper pin and the lower pin... and you swapped them...?? -MY cable consist of 30 feet extention cable and 20 feet cable with transducer at the end. I exposed wires on extension cable with 7 pins and 7 wires inside. I cut the wire from very upper pin and connected its inlet end to the lower wire without cutting it.-So I'm understanding that you modified the wire-to-pin configuration in the extension cable and not the SI xducer cable.... -Can you tell me what the upper pin channel was for (pre-modification) in the modified extension cable connector end...?? and also -Can you tell me what the very lower pin channel was for (pre-modification) in the modified extension cable connector end.??

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there are no SI views under the "Views Tab" to select...??- I use sonar 2D and DI views for my SI views. I also use Hummviewer in my PC. When your HB unit is set to show a DI view... is the SI image showing on your HB 385 DI unit...or just in Humviewer...?? - yes, in DI window it shows right SI side, and in 2D window - left. I use Hummviewer at home reviewing sonar recodings on big PC screen. -Can you post into this thread what your HB unit displays when in each "Di window it shows right SI side" and 2d window it shows left SI side" ...??

*How does a DI unit show SI images when there is no processor programming to render a SI image..?? - I am a piping/mechanical engineer and did not know that it is impossible, I just pluged SI transducer in 385 and it worked. In DI window SI works absolutely the same way as DI with the same settings. In 2D window it was very dark first, but after turning on the switch fair and setting all filters for max it became visible. Are there normal SI settings available in the DI unit menu when configured this way...(SI Range, left and right side choices, SI Range Lines)...?? - yes, all what is available for DI and 2D work for SIs. The only shortige is that there is no palette with black background in 2D window, and one can see only negative SI views in that window. -Can you post into this thread what your HB unit displays when in this "2d window one can only see negative SI views"...??

Rickie

Vic...you really have me intrigued here.. - That's OK :)

So I'm understanding that you modified the wire-to-pin configuration in the extension cable and not the SI xducer cable.... -Can you tell me what the upper pin channel was for (pre-modification) in the modified extension cable connector end...?? -Extension cable has the same pins and wires that SI transducer cable has, it just has two extra wires (lower left and lower right) that are not in use and I did not touch them. It does not matter which cable to cut - all the same. Upper pin is for sending signal for 2D sonar crystal, it has the same power and frequency as DI has (upper/right pin).

Can you tell me what the very lower pin channel was for (pre-modification) in the modified extension cable connector end.?? - lower pin in 385 sonar is empty, but lower pin in SI transducer is for left side imaging crystal, and I redirected 2D signals from upper sonar pin to lower transducer pin for SI left side.

Can you post into this thread what your HB unit displays when in each "Di window it shows right SI side" and 2d window it shows left SI side" ... (see below) the first picture is "Di window it shows right SI side" , the second "2d window it shows left SI side", the 3-d shows both sides of split screen.

-Can you post into this thread what your HB unit displays when in this "2d window one can only see negative SI views"...?? - please see the second picture below. Actually it is a "Grey" palette in sonar, but I call it negative because it shows shadows in white collor.

Now my friends are waiting for Humminbird 398 SI, but what is shown in shop advetisments does not look good: down/side imaging capabilities are reduced three times till 100 feet, and side images on screen are 1.5 less then I have on 385, but they could be 2 times wider then I have, if to use vertical views for split screen side imaging views, not horizontal.
Vik

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This is interesting stuff Vik...

You have done well...

Rickie