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The question was posed to the MDWFP law enforcement division that if you had 3 licensed anglers in the boat with you on Sardis and only 2 of the anglers were fishing would you be allowed the boat limit of 40 fish.
Here is the answer: The intent of the rule is to limit the catch of 3 or more actively fishing anglers to a limit of 40 crappie. If there are only 2 people actively fishing in the boat the 40 fish boat limit does not apply. Each angler's limit is 15.
So 30 for two people fishing no matter if Grandpa,Uncle Ted, Guide etc is in boat and has licsence. Got to have pole in hand fishing.
I figured that was the answer, just don't seeing it being inforced. Unless for some reason the third person gets caught without a license.....Just my:twocents.....
Oh Big H.....why didn't you reply to the hook removal post! I bet you couldn't even watch it....:biggrin
Be hard to enforce but this is the rule. Cray gave an example of one ticket that he knows of being written for this because the warden was watching the people with binoculars. Folks will always bend the rules if they want to but but now we know the intent of the rule and its up to us as fisherman to be ethical and follow them.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawgdog
Actively fishing would be hard to enforce in a court of law.
Totally agree, but this is not about whether or not its hard to enforce in a court of law. It's about doing the right thing! Either u choose to follow the law or you don't, simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie53
I don't think so. To be actively fishing, one would have to have a pole in hand, or within a reasonable distance of reach. Sitting in a seat or reclined on the floor/deck & not having a pole in the water (under their command), does not constitute "actively fishing".Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie53
Now, it might be a little dicey if angler #3 has a pole in the water ... but, isn't "really" fishing with it (just there for show), it's not baited, or the hook is bent down. That would constitute an "unethical" behavior, but not technically an "illegal" behavior (unless angler #3 does not have a license).
Having a third angler in the boat, not actively/legally engaged in fishing, for the sole purpose of adding another 10 fish to the overall limit ... is just plain greedy, selfish behavior. It's akin to poaching (theft of resources) IMHO.
Ya'll best be careful, lest you end up with laws like some other states have .... where each persons catch has to be separated, so as to account for size & numbers of each individual angler.
... cp :kewl
Thanks Handi. Your pretty useful :thumbup:
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I agree with Handi and Pappy on this
We guide on one of the if not the best Trout Streams or river in the world.It is activily watched and managed.the AGFC does a great job:highfive.Their is no culling after you put your limit on a stringer,cooler or in a live well.Have lots of trips where the wife or kid's want to go just to experence the beauty of the River and the wildlife.We deal with this issue daily.We really get into the fish and the wife or child wants to catcha few.If I set the hook and the child reels the fish in whos fish is it my fish he reeled it in.I took it off the hook and released it.We have three fishermen in the boat can we have 2 limits or 3. its a hard law to enforce and the word Activily is a hard word to enforce.(Did he inhale as he was smoking the pot) That is why in our boats we never take the limit to the bank or home if the limit is 5 we take 4 home if it is 20 we take 19 home!!! Keep the laws simple easy to follow!!! Don,t make it hard to understand or enforce!!! Sorry Slab,G could not help this one!!!!
Thanks for the ifo Handi....I will be going by the intent of the rules
when my wife goes with me, we put out her 3 poles on grenada, then she proceeds to go to sleep in the boat......is that actively fishing? lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie53
by the way, we have never kept more than 20 fish the times she has gone with me, lol.
"G"eezer worried about a boat limit? Yea, right!Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
hehehehe:biggrin
Big Gewber........Quote:
Originally Posted by Big H trucking
Where does it say you have to have pole in hand to be fishing? When I'm guiding, I AM FISHING!!!!!:banghead
I unwrap every stinkin pole, bait every hook, set each pole in the rack and watch every pole for bites. I direct clients to catch fish on the poles they are closest to, I even reach between them and catch a fish on my two poles at times (running 8 with two clients, their six and two for me).
So.....how am I not actively fishing?
I don't ever worry about a regular limit lol.....might only get a limit once a year if I'm lucky lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ATM
well, g, that makes you and wb not worrying about limits!Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
Duck most the places that I fish have a limit of 30......I might get my limit at Sardis now or close to it.....14 seems to be my number anyway lol
Where does it say you have to have pole in hand to be fishing? When I'm guiding, I AM FISHING!!!!!:banghead
I unwrap every stinkin pole, bait every hook, set each pole in the rack and watch every pole for bites. I direct clients to catch fish on the poles they are closest to, I even reach between them and catch a fish on my two poles at times (running 8 with two clients, their six and two for me).
So.....how am I not actively fishing?
For reference I am using the following defintions from the State of Texas on guide regulations since there are none for MS.
Fishing: Taking or attempting to take fish, shrimp, crabs, oysters, clams, mussels or any other aquatic life by any means.
Fishing Guide: A person who, for compensation, accompanies, assists, or transports a person or persons engaged in fishing in the waters of this state.
Under the scenario you listed you would be considered both a fisherman and and fishing guide and would be within the rules. I can only assume you were also fishing with these same two poles in the fall when the rod limit was 5 per person and the boat limit was 50 and in both cases you would be well within the rules. On Sardis, your clients would only be able to keep a creel limit of 30 if you were not there and IMO them being able to catch an extra 10 fish because your in the boat GUIDING them is not the INTENT of the rule. Obviously the rule itself needs to be re-written where we all have the same understanding of the regulations.
The example I gave wasn't very hard,cost them 500.00 :yikesQuote:
Originally Posted by jackie53
We ain't in Texas, Handi. Why would you want their regs over here. I believe that Arkansas code has a definition of "Guide" also.
It's plain that you have never fished with Feelay. As many fish as you have caught, you must know that there is a lot more to "fishing" than holding a pole. Holding, or watching, a pole is only one small, albeit an important, facet of fishing. Is the definition of "fishing" simply holding a pole and bringing in a fish. Kinda limits the scope of things, doesn't it?