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I am thinking that I would much rather have 5 poles with 1 hook as opposed to 3 poles with 2 hooks. What do you guys think? Might be a way to propose it to the commission and get some positive response since you are actually lowering the odds of catching fish by the number of hooks in the water as opposed to taking away poles.
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This is something to think about for sure.......Another good idea out of your pea brain....
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good idea....that makes more sense than a pole limit
I like it a lot. Could pull cranks with five.
You are still loosing, at 3 poles now at Sardis and Grenada most of us use 6 baits now, if they went back to five poles but cut to one hook you would just have 5 baits in the water.
Could very well be a back up plan tho, I hope not. Hope we can gain a little bit of ground and not back up any.
U would have to take one of the treble hooks off the crank baitQuote:
Originally Posted by "G"
not according to the way the rules are written....one bait is considered a hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by bird down
Ya, still losing but sometimes a compromise works well for all. It wouldn't hurt my feelings to fish with only one hook and would make rigging and transport much easier but I ain't going to 1 hook unless all you gewbers are to, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
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that would reduce the pressure by one hook....so far reducing the pressure is the only reason that has been givenQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I agree Handi, we have to have some compromises in mind for sure. Hooks haven't been in question and are most likely best left alone but we will see.
I don't want to give an inch because I don't think we're wrong. I want six poles on the Big Four. If we MUST give, my second choice would be a Boat Pole Limit instead of Person Pole Limit. My third choice would be a Hook Limit.
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Don't give an inch! They will try to take a mile. It's just like gun control laws. We abide by the same limit rules the single polers do, that SHOULD be the end of discussion.i know a couple of locals here in L'ville who talk as if trollers are a plague but they left the Ten-Tom last weekend with 84 crappie between them, most all were below 10", I'm sick of this hypocrisy!
I like the Boat Pole Limit over the person pole limit too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATM
Thats only way i fish anyhow so it would not be much of a change.
Next they will limit us on hooks too. Tks a lot.
Really? I make a post about a possible solution to the current changes and this is your reply. You have been flying under the radar on here lately but it won't be long before your banned again. Btw, you can officially take me out of the Tri-State thing to.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappiehooker
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WAS IT NOT " THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF GRENADA county THAT SUED THE C.O.E. BACK IN 1973? THAT LOWERED THE RULE CURVE ON ALL VICKSBURG DIST. lakes ? YOU ARE FISHING THE MECCA , so maby " one" for grenada ! :biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
This is funny:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: but Kenyon what you expect...Quote:
Originally Posted by Handicrappie
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Handicrappie I like the idea as a comprimise.Know your gonna see as I have when I'v tried to talk about reduceing pressure some on here don't think it a problem.I would like for 1 guy on here that troll's to admit your odd's are better at putting more fish in the boat than a single poler for the simple fact of more hook's covering more water at 1 time.Oh your not just reduceing pressure by 1 hook your doing it by 6 hook's if 2 people are in the boat with 3 poles apiece My point of this reduceing pressure is not to keep people from fishing but protecting a resource that can be ruined by over fishing.I don't think you can over fish for # but you can over fish for quality(big fish).I use Grenada because I consider it my home lake I don't want to see it become a place you can catch a mess(I'm gonna quit useing limit because tha should not be your goal) of 1lb.fish with a very slim chance of catching anything bigger.
Reducing hooks or poles does nothing to reduce pressure, not taking fish out of the lake is the only way to reduce pressure. Slo trolling it is very rare to gill hook a fish, does happen pulling cranks, so the vast majority of fish released live to bite another day.
How any trollers load and unload anywhere other than a public ramp?? I would like to know to who the most over the limit citations is written to, trollers or single-polers. What does more damage, catching fish year round or only fishing when they are on the beds and inerupting the spawn??
Also, on the hook thing, I know alot of folks that use 2 jigs under a cork casting so it wont just effect trollers.
Please keep this conversation civil. Do not turn it into a nasty debate between one type of fishing and another. If it gets out of hand the thread will be deleted and all your comments here will be lost. Please, please, please, lets keep the peace. This applies to all the threads on here that have been started on this topic.
Of course a troller's odds are better but we still have to abide by the creel limit just like anyone else. That's the point!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave Digger
I have really not said much so please don't take anything I say the wrong way. Let me start by saying I do troll sometimes and am not against it. But do talk to several biologists and most do not think highly about c.com and trollers and that is very wrong. My point is as y'all are going forward tread lightly and good luck.
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those biologists should be united with the enforcement officers and be glad we show up. i belive ther would be a few unemployed if notQuote:
Originally Posted by Big C
Big C, I encourage you to get with Slab and reveal to him why these biologists think so lowly of c.com. He may have some thoughts on how to improve our image.:twocentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Big C
The MDWFP people were not supportive at the Enid meeting of the effects crappie.com has had on crappie fishing. Such as posting where they are biting, pics, etc... When I called Mr. Ron Garavelli to discuss the changes to the rod limit without a new Notice of Intent, he asked me how I had even heard about the new regulations. When I told him crappie.com, he laughed like he had been ratted out by the evil empire again. Needles to say, the MDWFP Commision meeting minutes I posted from February were only posted online the day I posted them. As far as they are concerned this should not have been public knowledge until just this past week.Quote:
Originally Posted by jigflinger
So what do you think could be done to improve the relationship with C.C and the MDWFP
I'm a bit confused about not being supportive of a group that promotes the fisheries? If not us then who in the heck are they doing all the work for--their health--seems like the wrong way for them to be looking at things to me:twocents
Rees I'm gonna take you up on pulling cranks this summer just let me know when it's time.But let me tell yall wadeing whan their spawing is work and not as easy as some of you think.You have to cover alot of ground and there aint a fish by every bush or stake bed kinda like bass fishing you got to figure out what their on may be dead wood,green bushes,grass,stake bed's,ditches,flat's and water depth.I also think they folk's that troll may hurt spawning fish more cause yall hit the big females hard when their stageing to run up shallow.When the female goes in shallow she run's in to the bed prepared by the male quickly lays her egg's then goes back out and the male stay's to protect the eggs.
It's easier to catch fish with 5 hooks set at the right depth as opposed to having three hooks at the right depth and three that may not be. Most of my fish come on the bottom hook. Not always, but most of the time anyway.
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June will be good time to start maybe earlier. Wading is tuff for sure, bout to old to fool with it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave Digger
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I personally don't see the problem a limit is a limit. I feeshed the classic with one pole and a jig caught 7 feesh both days while 150 other boats with 2 people feeshed 8 poles,16 baits and caught 7 feesh both days. well I take that back 47 teams didn't weigh in a feesh the first day and over 50 teams the second day so like I said this single pole verses troller thing I don't understand we all had to catch 7 feesh regardless of the number of poles and hooks in the water to each his own feesh how you like, use what you want and be happy that we all live in a world were we can enjoy the sport of crappie feeshing.I am a single poler have been all my lif but I have started spider rigging and really love it just ain't that good at it yet so I see both sides here I am behind you guys who are fighting to feesh with as many poles as you want like I said it should not make a difference a feesh is a feesh ...............................wannabe is ugly!!!!:biggrin
Ain't even gonna say nothin', just quoting for posterityQuote:
Originally Posted by Grave Digger