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The way I read this Mr. Garavelli requested The Commission take away two of our poles based solely on 25 letters and 70 concerned anglers. Not once does it mention biological data. This is a trajedy.
If we don't act on this we will ALL be fishing with one pole in a year or two!
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Gewbers, all of 'em.
15 fish is 15 fish regardless.. What I haven't figured out is, if Sardis is full of 13" fish and nothing between that and 9", why did they change the regulations this year.. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait til next year when the lake is full of 11.5" fish
Now that's what I'm talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by feelay
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I read an artical the other day I think was in the Clarion Ledger and they were talking about the changes on Sardis.I tried to find it to get the quot right and I agree with it,the bioligest said he wished the other lakes in the big 4 would go with the 11in. 15 fish limit but fishing pressure was a problem and they had to figure out how to deal with it or it would be the down fall of big crappie.That's not exactly how he put it but that was the jest of it.
im good with the 15 limit completely. but i dont see how dropping the length to 11 is a benefit. ie.......you dont get bigger bucks by lowering antler restrictions.
" 15 fish is 15 fish regardless.. What I haven't figured out is, if Sardis is full of 13" fish and nothing between that and 9", why did they change the regulations this year.. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait til next year when the lake is full of 11.5" fish "
...........my thoughts on this. you have good years and you have bad years. we just suck it up.
i talked to the warden last week about the 3 pole thing. his statement was that the three poles will make it take longer to achieve a daily limit thereby helping to eliminate folks from double tripping in a day.
Hung out with one of the biologists this weekend. and he said this was not to grow bigger crappie, but to help sustain numbers. He said 80% of the fish either die of natural causes/predation, go out the hole, or are caught. He said up to 50% of the breeding size fish are being caught every year. I agree on the pole limits, but its crazy how many people travel to fish these lakes. I know its great for the surrounding communities, so don't cut it out. Make it a tag draw, Like many out of state trophy hunts are. But then that shuts down the guide services by limiting numbers of people that can fish unknown waters every year. We talked for two hours on the subject, and every proposal had its positives and negatives. But all of the negatives seem to outweigh the positives
It seems simple to me. Some of y'all won't like it, but put a season on them. Close the season 3 months a year to give the fish a breather. It works for other species on other lakes.
You can talk to 5 different MDWFP bioligists and get 5 different ideas or opinions.....I actually talked to one who dissagrees with the new rules and thinks they should just leave it like it was. :dono Maybe they are all not privy to the same data....dunno
Shut up Speck.
Wannabe...
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Everybody is entitled to an opinion, but was that biologist one who had actually done creel studies on Sardis?Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
Don't know about that Pops everyone has something different to say
It is what it is. And they will put a season on it eventually wait and see to many people complaing about trollers, Me personaly i dont care what anybody does to catch fish. Crappie fishing has become like bass fishing big business years ago you did'nt have all this fancy stuff use to be a man in a 14 ft jon boat with a 9.9 now if you aint spend 10000 dollars u aint crappie fishin.
10,000 is not bad...try 20,000 plus its fun though and one thing for sure...I have not hurt the population:Rofl And Speck hasn't either....just kidding with ya Speck:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by slabin
Thats my point heck some guys go more in a trolling motor then my boat is worth.
OH YES I HAVE!!!! I'm one bad a** crappie fisherman!!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
Thats just because your with Yikees lol
He is a good net man!!! :)
Thats gonna leave a mark lol
15 fish limit fine-11 inch fine-3 poles--now way--I don't like that--just means you got to have someone with you every time you fish.
This is too funny. How does those 2 extra poles make you or break u? U may find that only fishing three poles is more productive...Maybe u want miss any strikes, maybe u can pay more attention to each poles exact depth, get in tighter spots, etc. Yea a few poles increases your odds but you have to adapt and over come! I troll around with one pole and sometimes 2 poles in hand alot and honestly dont think I would be better off with 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
15 Fish makes sense with the pressure, 3 pole limit kinda makes sense. The only sense the 11 in limit makes is to shut up some of the folks who travel some distance and spend big bucks to get there. Gives them a chance to take home a mess of fish. Hopefully they will take a limit of those fish and quit fishing just for the larger fish. Seems every warden or park person I have talked to has told me the biggest complaint from most folks was traveling and not being to keep fish. They can say what they want about conservation and all that does come into play but they still worry about the Tourisim dollar and it's impact on the State and Local economy and Tax dollars. Those guys in Jackson care more about that than anything else.
3 pole rule is stupid no mater what lake it is.... Like kdavid said if your going to fish alone.... Won't be Sardis or Grenada!
I think the biggest concern is pressure.There are so many people crappie fishing now.And we when people figure out it is not that hard to catch them slow trolling,pulling cranks or catching them on there beds the pressure adds.With all the technology and different technics it has become a year round sport.I think eventually they will set seasons and i'm for it.
3 poles is garbage. O well better get some feshin partners.
X2 on the season.........Quote:
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If they go to seasons.....they better add a lot more parking at the ramps....just saying
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I always get up early
X2Quote:
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Yep, gonna be bad.
Lmao Fishing with 3 pole and complaining here in Indiana we have a three pole per person limit i have no problem catching fish by myself to be honest i dont know how you guys can fish more than 3 each without having a clusterĄŁ€k 3 is enough for me lolQuote:
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Skill:)
last one--and for me it's more the principal of it. Next it will be the length of the pole--or type of pole-or no minners--yall get the picture.
I can't stand trot lines or jugs either--think they are dangerous but it is legal so I wont hound on the people that use them. shouldn't make a difference if I use 5 poles if the limit is set for the number of fish you can catch. 3 poles does make you choose your color a bit more stringently but that how we got to go. I'll just start taking people with me and have them sit in the b seat:)
as big as you are they may throw you in the back seat and tell you to sit and be quiet, maybe get you to make a sandwich and get drinks:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
I'm going to try to give the short version. According to MDWFP head fisheries biologist Keith Mills:
2007 surveyed Sardis and found 29 crappie of various lengths.
Changed MLL to 12".
2012 surveyed Sardis and found 695 crappie of various lengths. EXCEPT 8"-9" due to COE opening the spillway and flushing the lake during the spawn a couple years ago. The fishery is on such good shape people from 24 states traveled here to fish last year.
Once we catch the legal fish now the catching is going to drop off sharply due to the missing year class.
MDWFP proposed changing to a 10" MLL, 15 creel, and 40 boat limit to allow some catching during this lean time. Intending to raise the limit back to 12" next year.
68 single poles stood up and said hog wash. The fishery is not in good shape. The evil single polers have killed it.
MDWFP Fisheries Chief runs to the MDWFP Commission at his first opportunity and asks them to take two of our poles. Without the customary comment period I might add. They immediately comply.
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If they had proposed the 3 pole limit in the Public Notice the turnout at the Enid Meeting would have been totally different.
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I agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by ATM