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I was looking for the detail on the bottom i.e. brush holding fish, etc. and GPS is not really needed as I have a handheld.
It appears as though the elite 7x gives you both benefits of sonar plus down scan $550
But looking on PB sale cat. they have an HB with down imaging plus sonar $400...do they compare?
Yes I know the HB screen is smaller on the 596c HD DI.
But for a novice who fishes mostly less than 40 ft water on small lakes and pits...which one?
thanks for the help in advance
Went to the Elite 7 from a HB 798, major difference in scene. You wont be disappointed in the Elite 7, uch brighter too in the sunlite.
I have to agree with Rees. I don't think they can be compared. The 596 doesn't even have GPS. The elite-7 has a 7" screen, GPS, 2D, DS, and it can use NMEA 2000 network to share waypoints, and use external GPS sources.
Sonar without GPS is kind of like having a sonar unit without a boat, IMO. I did the handheld thing in the early days, but it can be a pain, and slow. In april you could add a new GPS puck with heading and 10 X per second refresh. You want to hold on brush and waypoints, welcome to being able to do it with precision!
[QUOTE=mduncan62;2209457]I have to agree with Rees. I don't think they can be compared. The 596 doesn't even have GPS. The elite-7 has a 7" screen, GPS, 2D, DS, and it can use NMEA 2000 network to share waypoints, and use external GPS sources.
Sonar without GPS is kind of like having a sonar unit without a boat, IMO. I did the handheld thing in the early days, but it can be a pain, and slow. In april you could add a new GPS puck with heading and 10 X per second refresh. You want to hold on brush and waypoints, welcome to being able to do it with precision![/QUOTE]
What is this you speak of, looking forward to your response.
Lowrance Point-1 GPS AntennaQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Offering unparalleled accuracy around the world, the Lowrance Point-1 GPS/GLONASS antenna with integrated e-Compass/Gyro is a rugged precision positioning and heading sensor that ensures access to stable and smooth vessel orientation. In addition to reliable location information, when used with a compatible Lowrance HDS Gen2, HDS Gen2 Touch or Elite-7 series display, the Point-1 greatly enhances navigational information by providing accurate course over ground (COG) data at any speed and enabling radar overlay on charts. Delivering a configurable update rate — 1Hz, 5Hz or 10Hz — for smooth and precise location updates, the GPS features an advanced chipset that offers enhanced time-to-first-fix and supports multiple Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS). The high-precision antenna will also communicate with GPS, GLONASS and WAAS/EGNOS/MSAS. The Lowrance Point-1’s compact size and NMEA 2000® compatibility enable ease of installation anywhere on a vessel, allowing boaters to select the ideal mounting site for optimal positioning and performance.
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Thanks, gonna be nice!!
Did you not miss the SI? With some of the 2D images that I have been seeing from Lowrance, I had just as soon have the 2D as the DI. The 2D on the Elite 7 is awesome. I have the HDS 5 & can't come close to Elite 7 2D images.:twocentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Not at all, just didnt use it much. Didnt I get my 798 from you, if so the 2 of us sue put some hours on that thing!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Don G
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Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Nope, didn't get it from me. It might have been the GPSMAP 76csx.
Thats what i was, glad one of us has a good memory. Hope to see yall at camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don G
Long term memory is good but don't ask me what I did an hour ago.:donoQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
you are correct in wanting a unit with both 2d and the di. dont get one with just di. what your saying about the gps .thats what i do. i keep all of my waypionts on my garmin handheld and ive got gps's all over my boat but i still pefer my hand held .ill mark stuff with my other gps's the first time but after that i use the hand held. im not saiying its the best way thats just what i do. (2d will let you see the structure and keep the structure out in front of your boat.di will not show the structure until it is passing under the boat) . to me its a no brainier but theres a lot of people that want just the di. P.S. THE SMART THING TO DO IS BUY A UNIT WITH 2D/DI WITHOUT GPS AND USE YOUR HANDHELD.dont get caught up in the money pit fishing game like most of us. heres a picture using humminbird 597 http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps1068771b.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by buffresources
http://www.universalmania.com/search...&sp=humminbird............... this is were i buy most of my money pit stuff. fast and reliable and good prices. they have 596 for $ 370
you just posted a couple of days ago. saying that there was no need for a heading sensor with the faster refresh rate. that was humminbirds product with the heading sensor that you were talking about. now your promoting lowrances heading sensor.nonono:yikesQuote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
If you are going to quote me, be a man about it and do it correctly please. I was comparing Garmins GPS, which states they claim to be able to get heading with 10Hz refresh.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
But since you bring it up, now if you have lowrance, you'll be able to get 10Hz refresh as well as heading sensor that is NMEA 2000. Seems pretty cool to me.
:Roflwatch your blood pressure man and calm down .you no theres more to come. you no that the humminbird 360 that use bad mouthed so much,well you no lowrance will come out with there version soon and your going to start promoting it. are you sure you dont want a job work ing for lowrance?Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
I am hoping Lowrance will come out with something to scan forward, aint worried about beside me or behind me, I want to see what is coming up.
Think the thread was about the Elite 7 verses HB 5 series, hands down the Elite 7 wins.
Good stuff Kosmo. No blood pressure issues here. Judging from the initial release of the 360, I'd have to assume that Navico is going to hold off on producing anything similar, but what do I know. Are you trying to do what you accused me of doing?Or am I responsible again for things you say and how you act now?Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
your right, the 596 down not comepare to the elite 7. this is true but i think the author of this thread is looking for something to show structure and fish while not spending a whole lot of money.i was trying to tell him about the the limited coverage area front to back of di. mike never tells anybody about that. while im posting i will tell you something about that looking forward you mentioned.ive been playing with the 360 and its really neat how i can see the structure way out in front of me and i can adjust mt boat as i approach it.to the right or to the left and i can slow down and watch it slowly start showing on the 2d of my 597 then i can ease on up a little farther then see it on the di. when lowrance comes out with it youall like it. in this picture you see that the structure is just under the bow of my boathttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psbd635fb4.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
That is cool, thanks for sharing. Hope to see both companies become more affordable, actually sold my 798 used and got the Elite 7. The technology is there they just got o put it together, maybe it will be a spin off when the 360 hipe settles down.
The 360 so far just hasn't created that much hype, in fact there's been more information about issues then there has good news. At the end of the day, it has it's place and there's use cases just like everything else. Only time will tell if it's a game changer or not. It's just another spin on current technology, pun intended.