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With today's computers,pads,etc. why not keep the kids at home, and no school shootings,college as well? bet the mommies would raise cain.....the teachers could work out of a building a lot smaller than a school house and no buses, cut the cost way down.....everyone wants all these high tech. toys then put them to good use instead of playing with them....just thinking is all......:biggrin
opps please move to off topic someone........... thanks......
I think your right. I know my wife keeps saying she going to home school these, But wait just a minuite i say have you seen some of there math problems these day.. gee wiz. Haft to go back to school just to help with home work...Bigest thing i think is these kids need to mix and mingle.
Don't know if it's a good idea or not. Sure would miss out on a lot of stuff.....My Favorite...The pencil Trick!!!
I think it is an excellent idea........wish I'd thought of it.
Lets wait another 4 years give or take then I can retire and all is well.
might work, but who would pay the bills if mom or dad stayed home.
We homeschool our youngest (the three older all went to public school) because he was "diagnosed" with ADHD and we didn't want to give him prescription drugs to "control" it. Not all kids learn by sitting in desks listening to lectures, especially not boys. Some need to get their hands dirty, but that doesn't work in structured school settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by beagle man
So my wife stays home and I go to work and we pay our bills. But not without sacrifice. Our cars aren't new, our house isn't huge, and my boat is a complete P.O.S. But they drive, it's big enough for us, and it floats so I guess that's all that matters. And my youngest son's social development has to take place at other places like church and homeschool co-ops. It works.
No, Monty....you're not nuts.
Well...maybe you are....but not about this.
Oh, some collectivist would have a stroke reading this form of Blasphemy.
I agree it’s a good idea.
Joedog is a fine example of a Man that takes responsibility for his child and gives up niceties to protect his child from the influences of collectivist.
I applaud him for this.
Extracted from 'The Left, The Right & The State:
In truth, if the education sector were ever completely in private
hands, nothing like the current system would continue to
exist. Most administrators would be without jobs in the school
system. The schools themselves might become retail centers.
Education would be radically decentralized and mixed with
private enterprise. Schools would come and go. Teacher salaries
would probably plummet. No one would have a right to an
education guaranteed by the state. The state could ask for and
expect no content or results from education at any level.
A huge range of alternatives would exist, but rare among
them would be the current system of megaschools that operate
as holding tanks for thousands. Of course we cannot know in
advance what this sector would look like, what shapes it might
take in the future, but that is precisely the point.
I should have been a school teacher, it would be all day training for crappie fishing and how well I can use the willow stick on some bottoms....then spend the rest of my life in prison for spanking someone......
You got to get out Monty... Do some fishing soon. we can see a change in ya
Hope to get out very soon....... :fish
Online schooling will be the thing of the future in combating the outrageously increasing cost required to attend universities today.
Kit's post was spot on.
From here The Best Teacher Evaluation
The Best Teacher Evaluation “Plan” is a Free Market in Education
Posted by Michael A. LaFerrara at 7:30 am
Teacher evaluation is all the rage today. The “central question” confronting the education establishment, writes Lyndsey Layton in the Washington Post, is, “What’s the best way to identify an effective educator?” And, Layton notes:
After a three-year, $45 million research project, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes it has some answers. The most reliable way to evaluate teachers is to use a three-pronged approach built on student test scores, classroom observations by multiple reviewers and teacher evaluations from students themselves, the foundation found.
What’s missing from this equation? The parents.
This is symptomatic of a broader moral inversion. As C. Bradley Thompson puts it in his essay “The New Abolitionism: Why Education Emancipation is the Moral Imperative of our Time“: “Government schooling takes away from parents the enormous responsibility of providing their children with an education and transfers that responsibility to the state.”
Parents should have the final say on the competency of those who educate their children. More broadly, parents should have the freedom to direct the course of their own children’s entire education, with their own money, according to their own judgment—and not just as a practical necessity and parental responsibility, but as a moral right. This will not happen as long as government maintains its domination over America’s schools.
Bill Gates’s Microsoft flourished and grew because Gates was (relatively) free to innovate in the private and largely unregulated high-tech marketplace, within which consumers are free to “vote with their wallets.” Educators have no less of a moral right to freedom in their field than Bill Gates has in his—and parents have no less of a moral right to freedom of choice in education than Gates’s customers have to freedom of choice in software. And just as the (relatively) free market in software fosters product excellence, so a free market in education would foster excellence in that field.
If Americans are concerned about “the best way to identify an effective educator,” they should call not for another top-down plan for tweaking the “public” schools, but for the abolition of government from the field of education. Parents and educators in the marketplace can then freely determine what kind of education they respectively want to offer and buy, and whether the teacher evaluation methods advocated by the Gates Foundation, or anyone else, suits them.
My wife is homeschooling our children, her and her two brothers were homeschooled, I believe it is the righr thing for my family, and I know its not for everyone. We go without some of the extras with just 1 income, but we have a nice house, two good running cars, however SW can only go out to eat once a month and don't have cable tv or internet ( I can use my work provided phone to get on here) but its nice not to have those distractions. I was public schooled and always thought home school was for kids that got kicked out of school, but my wife and her brothers are very smart, and her oldest brother just elected into a state representative. My 5 year old daughter is doing second grade math and loves it, she is reading on a first grade level and loves science. She wants to be a OBGYN (deliver and help babies) or deer farmer (so she can grow big deer to shoot). As far as the social part they have co-ops and sports teams and they are in Sunday school.
I've sub taught in three different districts sometimes all at once when needed for the last three years. I've been grateful for the education system because it's been a means to an income for the last three years and I can take a job or leave it. If someone calls to go crappie fishing on a nice friday I can go. Moving on from that now I've come to the conclusion that in most districts, parents complaints about disciplining their children in school whether it be in school suspension, sent to the hall, or in some cases just having homework will create a problem for teachers.
Kids can talk to you with so much vitriol and disrespect it would make a good mans ears burn. The schools do little to nothing anymore to fix this. It's an age of disrespect that's dawning on many. When one kid does it you lose an entire class room if you don't handle it immediately. Your still going to get back lash from the principal from the parent phone call. If I had the option I would private school my kids in heart beat. My kids need discipline. I will stand by the teachers when my kid is out of line. Many in schools don't. School violence is only going to get worse. Not better. It's going to take a revival of heart to switch America back to what it once was. It starts in the schools, and I'm telling you much like the political nature of our country our schools are breeding that nanny state culture. If you breathe you get passed. Old fashion values formed this great nation into a super power. I'm sad to say she's going the way of the wayward son. For this very reason (loss of respect of authority) the roll of a good teacher is diminished. The difference made is minimal. Digression over.
or deer farmer (so she can grow big deer to shoot). As far as the social part they have co-ops and sports teams and they are in Sunday school.[/QUOTE]
Way to go girl.. I love it
Agreed. When the parents started defending their children against the schools, the decent down the slipperly slope occurred. When we were kids, the last thing you ever wanted was the principal to call your Mom or Dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny W
I appreciate your contributions to our children. I lament the changes that have caused all this degredation that inhibited your ability to give the kids what they deserve.
dang, when I first read this I thought it was a joke,sorta thing, guess I was wrong, so since I dont like school, guess I will shut up
Why is it I always catch my typos and spell errors after the time limit to correct?
Descent down the slippery slope. Missed the s in the initial post.
Joe, welcome to being a minority in today's society, those that fend for themselves versus those that expect someone else to do everything for them. You, your wife and family are an inspiration, thanks for sharing your story.
Mix and mingle is right. Social skills are important. My two went through the pubic school system and both have B.S. degrees - one as a mechanical engineer the other as a chemist. I have colleagues at work who have home schooled their kids and they still live at home, or work in a coffee shop, or "trying to find himself" on a mission of some sort. Others down here send their kids to high priced Catholic schools for a "better education." It all comes out in the wash. My grandson was "diagnosed" with ADHD which I think is ......... He now walks around with a blank stare on is face. No more corporal punishment they say - drug them instead. I am proud to say, my wife and I did well - the proof is in the pudding they say. My two cents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charley41