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Man, i've tried my hardest to switch to braided line in the past year and I just can't do it. I have missed so many fish trolling it's sickening. Not to mention that I have caught fewer fish overall since I put braid on my reels last winter. I don't know what I could be doing wrong or maybe I'm just a poor fisherman but I just don't get any good results from braided line. Going to reload on mono tomorrow and get back to basics. Anyone else have problems catching fish with braided line?
It's all I use. 20/6 for longlining and 30/8 for cranking.
Same here. 15-4 on every pole and not a problem catching fish.
Use mono leaders on braided , this should make a big diff in missed fish, in my opinion , give it a try!
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Are you missing them on the strike or are they pulling off before you get them to the boat?
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On the strike. They will bend the rod back and get off. With mono they almost always get hooked. I'm not saying I'm missing fish all day long but I bet I see the rods get bit/miss 3 or 4 times on a trip out whereas with mono it was a very rare occurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by creekslick
Yea, I'm going to give that a try. Maybe 3-4 ft of mono leader will be enough stretch to hook 'em good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crappie Greg
Yep I've used the 20/6 for the past year. Do you use light action rods for trolling?Quote:
Originally Posted by creekslick
I use Wally Marshall Tightline Specials and his new rods for Lews from 18' long down to 10'. They are the stiffest trolling rod that I know of.
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For me the mono would be the weak link and would defeat the purpose of using braid to start with. I use it so I get my baits back, if not there would be days where I would lose 20-25 Crankbaits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crappie Greg
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That would be an issue if your trolling cranks but with jigs or minnows u only loose the hook or jig but save the weights which are the most expensive part of the set upQuote:
Originally Posted by creekslick
You can take the boy out of the country but you can't take country out of the boy
I've never tried it crappie fishing but I use it some on my bass poles. The problem I have is when I swing all I bring in is empty line all too often. I think rocks really fray it bad and it's so slick your knot pulls through a lot. It's strong though, hardly every bird nests and if it hangs on a cast all you have to do is give it a couple pulls outs the baitcaster and your back as with Mono sometimes its a cut job. I don't use it on every pole just certain ones and I was using the 6/20 but stepped up to the 50LB braid in hopes of less rock cuts and break offs on the swings.
I'm kinda hooked on that Cajun red line when it comes to my crappie gear, 6LB is really strong too.
Greg dont be giving all my secrets away lol. Sounds like u need to tune your jig hooks. Use braid and no problems pushing jigs. But hey i don't know much.
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Definitely picked this little secret up from u JW and it works!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbowhunter
You can take the boy out of the country but you can't take country out of the boy
[QUOTE= But hey i don't know much.
That's what I hear.
Harold better be naive than think ya know it all lol
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What kind of rods are u using?? I used braid on a cheap limit rod while spider rigging and had 4 other rods with mono and tht braid constantly caught fish and had no worries of breaking off and the sensitivity was amazing... lights jigs ran deeper also bc tge thinner diameter... only draw backs for me is i cant bite it for quick tiein and everyonce in a while a jig would fall off bc the line slipped through the eye of the hook where it bends together. Right now i have summit hi vis orange line and i love it... been amazed as to how well it stays tangle free and straight its like it knows which way to bend to get off the end of the rod tip ... fyi if you r fishing heber springs and not using a fluorocarbon leader i guarantee you u r gettin short strikes bc they can see tht braid clear as day...get a 4lb fluoro. Leader and i bet itll make a world of difference
Pffffttttt. What do you know about stiff rods? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by creekslick
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According to Jerry, you could use kite string for them dinks you catch. LmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbowhunter
X2 on the don't know much. ;-) hehe
I'm mean today. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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X2 on tuning in those jig hooks/ heads.
I tried braid a few years ago when it was the "rage" and thought the thinner dia and low stretch would work to our advantage when trolling faster and deep. Spent quite a lot of money to put it on most of my trolling rods but never could get used to it. I know a lot of folks that use it with great success but it didn't work for me. Our rigging is as simple as it gets and we like it that way for a reason. We have learned over time how to troll deep, fast, slow, shallow, ect with the dia of the 6# flouro we use with different downrigger weights to put and keep our jigs in that sweet spot layer that produces bites. What we do works for us......that's all I can say. I will never say "never" when it comes to fishing and I might be using braid this time next year but it would take a drastic change to make that happen.
not trying to hi jack this thread but wondering what brand of braid everyone likes best?
suffix and power pro slick 8 !!!
+1 on the power pro and suffix
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Braid has given me a whupping everytime I've tried to use it. Lot's of people like it, so I assume it is operator error.
I feel sure it was operator error in my case Randal......There are just too many great fishermen using it that swear by it for it not to be a good thing. I prob just didn't give it a fair shake. But, that being said, what we use now still works great for us and we're just too stubborn to change. Ever heard the saying, "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? LOL!!!
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Originally Posted by RCC
Yes, but ole Murphy's law seems to kick into effect on my fishing from time to time, and I just gotta go try something new trying to fix whatever ole Murphy has thrown my direction. Or sometimes someone that I know catches fish, leaves a little tidbit of info...Quote:
Originally Posted by luvpt
Hey, I just went out and bought some flourocarbon because you mentioned it in one of your posts. Now I gotta be trying that stuff. :Rofl
I'm sure it was operator error on my part but I don't know what is different about using the braid vs mono. I WAS using 8#flourocarbon leaders on the Power Pro 20/6 btw. I will say I use plain ole 7' M action rods but again, I used them with mono also. I really like the strength/diameter ratio on the braid though. Real shame.
I use the power pro and like it for certain reason's other than the fact it frays very easy and your gotta tie some good knots or it will slip through on hook sets. Somebody told me once you never wanna wet your knots with that stuff and I was like I have trouble with knots pulling out dry much less wetting them so heck no i've not been wetting them. ALmost wanna tie a knot in the tag end so it wont' pull through already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heber_Springs_Slab_Seeker
Dag gum BRM there you go giving away my secret line (kite string). Cant hide nothing from you gewbers. At least i got my hds 12 before you did nanny nanny boo boo.
I started using braid and love it. If it ain't broke then my motto is make it better so it wont break lol.
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Try the Palomar Knot it won't slipQuote:
Originally Posted by constructskeeter
I've changed lines so often it's sort of like underwear!
Gone through Stren (anyone want 2200 yards of high vis yellow?), hated braids, flourocarbon, Cajun red (great but deteriorated over time and rotted)...........now I'm on P-Line CX. In 2 months I'll be on something else.