I am not familiar with with term. What is the difference between this and spider rigging? One rod versus several?
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I am not familiar with with term. What is the difference between this and spider rigging? One rod versus several?
Shooter407
I've never longlined, but here goes:
Cast a jig out as far as you can with a spinning reel. Put multiple rods in a holders going out the back of the boat and troll at 1 mph. Adjust the depth by the amout of line out and your boat speed.
Hopefully a longliner will be along soon to elaborate.
from what i have learned atm is right on, but on spider riggin the way i understand it all of your poles are out in front of you or at worst at 90 degrees in a pushing manner as opposed to a pulling manner as the long liners do...
What they said. I just recently started longlining and its a good way to fill the live well. I use pony head jigs, like road runners, with spinning rods and reels. I use 6 lb test mono and cast the jigs a good cast behind the boat, place the rods in my rod holders and troll at around 1 mph. I'll use 1/8 oz heads if I'm wanting to run around 10 ft deep and change to 1/16 oz if I want to run a little shallower. Increasing your speed will also make the jig run shallower.
Spider rigging is mostly done from the front of the boat and much slower. It's also called slow trolling by some. You are wanting to keep your line almost vertical. Most folks use jigs, minnows or jigs tipped with minnows.
Good luck.
You guys hit the head on the nail. Pushing with verticle lines is what I call spider rigging. When spider rigging my boat looks like this...
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...ics/IMG_SR.jpg
When longlining the depths are achieved by speed as well as weight. The amount of line outn is another factor. Longlining is the best way I've found to catch numbers of fish. Here's a picture of my boat when longlining...
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j.../IMG_LLing.jpg
Thanks for the information. I am a longliner and did nit know it !!
Shootet
Does rod length matter when longlining out the back of the boat? Can the regular 6' and 7' spinning rods I have work or do they need to be staggered in length like some people do pulling cranks?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottV
They will work just fine. I use two 7`s and two 10`s when long lining off the back.
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Try to make a "consistent cast" for each rod in terms of amount of line you get out when casting so all the lures will be close to the same depth at a certain speed. You may need to have different lenghts of line (results in lures running at different depths) out to cover more of the water column when looking for the fish. Once you find the depth, adjust accordingly
Satdocs sickle runners with a curly tail grub on them work great for this.
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They will work fine. I use longer poles on the outsides and shorter poles angled up next to the motor to get maximum line separation. I normally use 6 poles when long lining and pulling cranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by duck38866
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Creekslick, Moderator of the AR board makes a mid spin jig called a Slick Jig that works great also. I use the Southern Pro Hot Grub tails. They make a huge selection of colors. I'm just learning this style of fishing, but there is a great article on the MCC website about long lining, and it has a chart that tells you approximate weight to line out for depth.
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Member, Tri-State Crappie Anglers
Our new sponsor Charlie Brewer makes a great bait also....the Slider....lots of action.
the jetzit is a awesome long lining bait Attachment 113952Attachment 113953
Not knocking anyone who uses 4/6/8 poles, but might start out with 2 and get the hang of LL'g, then put more rods out as you get comfortable with it. The more rods out, the higher the risk of tangles or hang ups.
i have a potential silly question........ive LL for several years now and have always pulled with my rods sticking out of the side of the boat and seperated the lines by using diff length rods......I have 16s, 14s, 12s, & 9s i use.......first started doing this out of necessity as I had to be near my trolling motor to run it......I now have an I-pilot so I dont have to do it out the sides but i still do.........noticed alot of guys run em out the back......is there an advantage to running em out the back? does it make it easier to make turns? Curious mainly.....I do everything else very similar as far as speeds, lures, head weights etc except my rods are out the side of the boat off the fron deck...... so why do alot of you guys pull ot the back?
Once I figure out the amount of line out that it takes to catch fish at a certain depth. I mark my lines with a black magic marker and I can go right back to the correct depth with no trouble.
I can cover more area of water out the back, less tangles, more poles when I'm by myself, and I think I catch more fish out the back.
James....its a lot easier on the turns and less tangles etc.
X2-I used to pull cranks from the front rod holders but I switched to the back. It does a lot better. I still use different length rods like I did from the front but I get more line separation now. When I started long lining I do it the same as pulling cranks. Just with lighter, spinning, gear and slower speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
how tight of turns do you guys make when LL'g out of the back? and an estimate of how much line you have out as well. Just curious?
Line out is about as far as you can cast a 1/16 or 1/8 oz. jig..... 35-40 ft. Fan the rods for good separation......cannot turn real tight.....long sweepy turns are ok
thanks.......may have to move my racks and see if i like it betterQuote:
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Originally Posted by ScottV
thanks G, that's what I was thinking. Some/most of the coves I LL in require a "U" turn, no room for a long sweepy turn.:fish
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Depends on what depth you want your jigs running at. Alot of times I only have 15'-20' of line out so my jigs will run shallower. If turning gets tight you can always hit the jack rabbit button on youre I-pilot remote and turn quicker/tighter then slow down once straightened back out.Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
everytime I hit my rabbit button....I tangle my lines.....guess I am trying to turn too sharp with it. I just turn slow and wide lol