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Personaly I use viscious high vise and I like it.theres a part of me that wonders what tbe fosh are seeing.the reason i wonder about it is because some years ago i had read about the camo lines for crappie fishing.Ive landed some nice slans on high vise.
Everyone I know uses high vis line. It really helps to see the line twitch when casting. I even watched a video that claimed that the high vis line gets the crappie's attention before the jig arrives. Anyone that thinks it scares fish away is mistaken. I caught 3,705 crappie with it last year and fishdoc caught thousands and thousands more with it.
I fished clear mono for my entire life, but after fishing side-by-side with some high-vis users, and watching them catch 2 to my 1, I switched to high-vis. End of story.
ID
IMHO ... if you fish methods that require watching the rod tip or a float, then clear line would work fine. If you fish methods that require watching your line, then hi-vis line is almost a must, unless you have excellent eyesight & the lighting conditions are favorable.
As I've said before, I don't think the fish are smart enough to be scared of line color. And if they do seem to be spooked by the line, you can be sure that they're reacting to more than just the presence of that line.
Can the fish see the line ? Yes ... and they can probably see the clear lines & camo lines, too. Why aren't they spooked by ALL lines, regardless of color ?? They don't spook from something that doesn't represent a threat to them. Many say that they can't get bit by spooked fish in clear waters, and blame it on the colored line ... when in fact it may be a more likely scenario that the fish can also see the angler, the boat, shadows from the anglers movement, and the rod motion; all of which is instinctively viewed as a threat. That's not taking into account all the other things that may have put them in a negative/defensive/spooked mood. If they can see you, the boat, etc ... then they can also see other predator fish, birds of prey, and the motion of other things within their range of sight that may have spooked them well before the angler arrived.
... cp :kewl
i have always been a line watcher. 90 % of the crappie i catch i never feel them. i watch for the tick in my line. high vis line is the only way to go.
I was in my boat while camping one day last year straighten out my rods and drop jig in water and brims kept pecking at it ,then i watch one come up the line to top and go back down,he did that a few times,the line seam to curious him but did not bother him,don't know that that means anything ,but it was fun watching him. I mostly use high vis, year before last wife and me caught over 5000 with that line ,don't know the count for last year,records was only sparismatic,probably in 4000, but we don't have to work now as many of you do,or many of you would have caught even more.
Hi Vis Vicious Panfish line....ul line gets no better. In se va there isnt much clear water so hi vis aint a problem. I DONT OWN A CLEAR LINE COMBO! and i have ALOT of rods and reels.
I like Vicious Hi-Vis line. Has anyone noticed that the 4# & 6# are different colors? My 4# seems to be a lot greener than the 6#.
I switched to Suffix Hi Vis yellow a long time ago and really like it. I still can't see the twitch in the line but hopefully I will be able to after I get my cataracts fixed in a few months.:yikes
I use Vicious Hi-Vis
Gene ... I don't know as the fish are looking so much at the line, as they are looking at where it breaks the surface of the water ... like a bug would do. I've even had them come up to where my line entered the water & bite at it ... but never had them nip at the line that was under the surface. They've even bit at clear lines (clear/blu Stren - BPS Excel) back when I used to use them. That's why I say that fish are not spooked by line, or line color, as much as they are by other factors that are happening at the same time. Do we really think that fish don't see lines of all sizes & colors, not only from active anglers ... but, think about all the broken off lines, hanging around in and among most of the cover that they use. If they were spooked by lines, or line color, they'd likely starve to death from being too spooked to move. :Doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by genec
And what about "back when" ... before there was such a thing as monofilament lines, of ANY color ... when most everyone used black nylon fishing line !! That obviously didn't spook very many fish, else our grandparents would have never caught very many fish, if any.
Fish know the line is not something to eat, so their attention is focused on what we have tied on the end ... the "something" that looks like it IS something to eat !!
... cp :kewl
Cp,i don't think line spook fish ,thats why i use it all the time,and i many times have had brim to hit line where it surface water,but as i watch this fish ,he kept his nose touching the line up and down a few times and was not concern with where it came out of the water, i just was wandering what he was trying to do,i realize that they do not think ,as we use the word, but what or why he was doing it
I use Mr. Crappie Hi vis 4 lb. In the past I always used Stren Blue mono. After several years of Crappie fishing I can not tell any difference with the fish seeing the line. But being able to see the line sure has been execelent for me! I believe the Crappie would bite a jig tied to a chain. As a rule I single pole fish 99% of the time.
Well ot seems like im not theonly that likes it lol.ive been using green .have not tryed the orange yet.
I use Sufix 6lb Hi-Vis Yellow. I special ordered a 3,000 yard spool some time ago but I'll give Vicious Hi-Vis a try.
Well, I seem to be outnumbered, and outfished. I would disagree with the statement that "in SE Virginia there isn't much clear water". You would be surprised just how clear our "blackwater" is. Try some snorkeling sometime and, while submerged, look up. I have always used a moss green line to try my best to blend with the blackwater that I fish (the upper Chick). Having done the snorkeling experiment, my boat is also finished in marsh camo. While I am just getting my feet wet with crappie, I have been bassin for decades and my belief is that, especially in fall, winter (when there is little planton and algae in the water) and in shallow waters, these things contribute to more big fish in the net. Remember, they are the big ones because they have not yet fallen to some angler.
Then again, I could still be all wet from snorkeling! :biggrin
George I have a 1/4 lb spool of 4,6,8,&10 Next time we get together ill let you spool off mine and let me know what you think.
I use hi vis berkly nano 8 and 10# now, I will switch out all my reels to this as it ages wears out. I always liked trilene XL6# and it had so much stretch the fish had to run at least 6 feet to pop it, it cast very well BUT compaired to the Nano there is no comparison. The nano is so strong and such a fine diameter it cuts through 20feet deep water better than all I have tried.
I do think the boat color makes a greater impact on fish.
I think boat noise plays a bigger role than color... Taps big red lund never seemed to spook fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatwater
I tend to use both but it seems like on the dull light days I get more on high vis it might just be I see the strikes better