The 7th Circuit of Appeals has invalidated Illinois ban on carrying loaded weapons in public,and given the General Assembly 180 to come up with a New law that Meets the Second Amendment:biggrin I can't help but be a little excited about this.
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The 7th Circuit of Appeals has invalidated Illinois ban on carrying loaded weapons in public,and given the General Assembly 180 to come up with a New law that Meets the Second Amendment:biggrin I can't help but be a little excited about this.
I just heard this on the radio, great for Illinois and the country
180 days..sorry
Hopefully Ill. won't get some watered down version of CC like Ar. Thug in the Whitehouse, thugs in Chicago, I can only imagine. If you apply for your CC, read everything this man has written about self-defense. Massad Ayoob, is internationally known and gives his soul to the right for people to protect themselves.
With Eager Beaver's God that has gotten his second term, I have no faith in this countries voters, one can only imagine what leaders are coming. I fear for my daughters well being.
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Originally Posted by PIGINTHEPIGPEN
I'm sure the politicians in Chicago and Springfield will try to weasel their way out of this. For the people of Illinois' sake, I hope they fail.
they will, and did
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Originally Posted by deathb4disco
to the OP...also che k out the book the concealed carry manual by Chris Byrd, has alot ofAyoob influence and writings in it, well written and alot of good info every ccw/chl lic holder should have.......great news out of Ill by the way
Great just what we need! More idiots that can carry guns! Like the 2 that just shoot their own kids, one fatally. :mad: EB
Get out of the line of fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
Good thing the did not have access to a baseball bat or a hammer. That would have been gruesome. Yes very sad deal EB but, you just don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
Your wrong there pig! I do get it, your the one that doesn't seem to understand or care! In reality, the kids were the ones that got it. EB :bangheadQuote:
Originally Posted by PIGINTHEPIGPEN
You can bet your bottom dollar I won't have any trouble sleeping tonight EB. Do you get that?
Mcdonalds has done more to kill kids than any firearm i own , lets ban them EB
I don't understand, eager beaver is a moderator and is also name calling in a thread. Doesn't sound like any moderator of a site I've ever been ob.nonono
We all have pretty thick skin in here. Hang around and marvel at his stupidity. :cheers2
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Originally Posted by glasseyes
Hi EB, we all feel bad for people that get killed, no matter how or why it happened, especially children. What about the woman that killed her husband with a coffee cup? I have a dangerous weapon in my hand as we speak. I'm not for you or against you, but if people are going to kill they don't need a gun, they will find a way...Just sayi'nQuote:
Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
I try to refrain from posting on such comments but they are a time when I feel I need to and this is one,,,Eb,,your way out of line,,uneducated and totally unaware of the purpose of c.c weapons,,I have c.c license,,trained and passed by the state to carry a weapon,To defend my family and others from these knife toting,club carrying,drug possessed scum that walk the streets of america,,If ever the situation would arise that you needed to protect your family,daughter,son,wife,mother,from a drug crazed maniac,and believe me its in the news everyday,they are out there,You better hope that they are someone close that has a concealed carry permit can protect you and your family,,another thought,If you would be able to reach for a gun to protect your family,,and you declined to do so,How would you explain it to your wife,daughter,mother?,,I don't believe they would buy your story,,I don't know what country you are from but here in america we believe in standing up for our rights and freedom,,read your history books EB,,Guns played a huge part in your freedom to post this topic,,Get real EB..You can kick me all you want,,but you can't beat me..because I carry a weapon to defend and protect myself and my family,,Thanks for posting,,We need more publicity to get our point across,,and its going across more everyday,,HillBilly,,A gun toting licensed concealed carry american
I was walking on Franklin Street in Tampa one day (early 1990's) and a police car suddenly pulled up right behind me and the policeman jumped out. Looking behind me I saw a man carrying a section of iron pipe. Just wonder what would have happened to me if the police would not have showed up. I wasn't a gun but still could kill.
So maybe we should start arming children? CC for kids? NO amount of "laws' will protect anyone from a fool or maniac or criminal. If the children and teachers in Conn. had had CC, the lunatic would have had to go to a nursery to commit his crime. So how soon do you start arming your 5 yrand older children and grandkids with the heaviest "iron' they can lug around...RIGHT? THINK you are MISSING the point; how can society manufacture firearms that have accurate MORAL judgement capability and WILL NOT allow the emotionally unbalanced, insane, or sick to pull the trigger? THAT is the ACTUAL point of the DEBATE...ANY ANSWERS??? Obviously we don`t seem ABLE (or willing) to prevent their AQUIRING them. And unfortunately if they can aquire them, eventually, they WILL use them. SO, again, how do you make the FIREARM not ALLOW unlawful killings??? Good luck with that...
there is no publicity on how many lives or injuries have been saved by law abiding citizens .i know of several in my home town .
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I am 66 years old and don't know personally of even one circumstance of that, before you step on me, I do not advocate taking guns away from law abiding citizens, it is a right we have and just like cars (which I suspect kill more people than guns) the good outweighs the bad, as far as saying somebody would have killed 28 people today with a lead pipe is just plain nonsense... Why do we always seem to feel a need to justify gun ownership... Tragedys like today happen because guns get in the wrong hands, unfortunately it is a side effect of our right to keep firearms.
Am not disagreeing that law abidding citizens have many times LEGALLY drawn weapons in self defense or in the defense of others. Think the question that I asked was DODGED...HOW do WE as a society PREVENT UNLAWFUL killings with firearms? Or will we simply say "Many must die so I PERSONALLY can carry a weapon and it is perfectly acceptable to me." HOW do we get the weapons THEMSELVES to be morally able to "make the call" ? GUN: This person holding me is mentally insane or temperarilly unbalanced and pointing me at a child; I will not fire. GUN: someone is preparing to illegally attack the person holding me, I will fire. Or do we just ignore it, stop watching the news and PRAY it doesn`t happen to our child or grandchild, counting on statistical probability as a "shield"?
I'm just getting home and apparently the guns belonged to his mother
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He took possession of the guns after killed his mama. Musta been in her will.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingpox
Good questions Mr. Turner, there is an answer. I will give you the answer you seek. you will deem me a lunatic just like that POS that murdered all those kids. This country is full of dumb azzes who have elected people to listen to the minority of political correctness. You dumb azzes have kicked God out of every aspect in our public lifes. Why are you surprised that we are reaping what we have sown? Are you surprised that we thinking we are so smart, high and mighty, that God has not given us up to our reprobate minds?
The answers you seek are of spiritual in nature....wrap your mind around that. God's will, will be done. Buy ammo brother, this country has been devoured by pure evil.....LIBERALISM
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MR. Tom, I would whack that POS if I could see into the future
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Originally Posted by Cane Pole
Pox, I hear how great it is to live in the socialist countries with no guns. These fools kill each other with poison. Hate must be fulfilled. Ask Cain and Abel. Poison is the Russians favorite murder weapon, not the AK47.
When pot is legalized nationally, it will put 100 million potential murders on the road.
Why is it why we see this and others don't?
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The latest School Shootings make a good case for the Teachers and Staff of schools all having CC permits.
As well as Bomb Proof doorways with scanners and only one open at a time.
Could say many many things and make many many comments. I think most have already been made. Sad day for so many. Wonder if they will ever get
the gun to confess. How do they kill or execute a gun? Would like to be at that trial. I've tried to get my gun to tell me why it missed that deer, but it
was mum, had nothing to say. How do you interrogate a gun? Last time I threw my gun on the shootin' bench, it just lay there.......wouldn't do a thing
I told it to do. Sold it. The shootin' bench, not the gun. So many questions. So many answers. So many choices.
I'm all for armed (multiple) guards at schools......if its good enough for the transport of money, why ain't it good enough for a much more valuable part of our society
Jeepguy james am WITH YOU 1000% on that 1...and as far as crime and DUI rates rising if pot is legalized, WHY that`s EXACTLY what happened when booze became legal again! Violent crime, DUI and alcohol related traffic deaths SKYROCKETED ! LET`S RE BAN BOOZE ! DUH...I LOVE how so few BOTHER to examine HISTORY at ALL. (Want proof? When`s the last time you saw a criminal standing on a street corner peddling bootleg booze? WHY? Cause it`s CHEAPER and likely SAFER to buy it at a grocery store LEGALLY...DUH!)
I don't think so, don't go there. I shouldn't be punished for someones elses irresponsibility. My two cents.Quote:
LET`S RE BAN BOOZE
Subscribe to American Rifleman (or join the NRA and get a free subscription), and read "The Armed Citizen" page. :ThumbsUpQuote:
Originally Posted by papasage
Those who continue to "justify" the ability to exercise a Constitutional Right are wasting your breath. Save it for those who have a shred of common sense for what Freedom stands for.
Flip on the news at any time of the day, any day of the week, and you will see another reason why all law following mature adults should own and have the right to protect themselves and their family. Whoever feels firearms are the problem, are far out of touch with reality, these are not the days of your parents or grandparents.
I will carry my guns to the grave, just in case the devil tries to break into my casket.
It truly is a sad day our hearts and prayers go out to those that have lost love ones!!!!Who? Let the FOX in the hen house our tax dollars are paying to protect our KIDs!!!!! Who was watching that let a man or anybody gets past securty into the building a man walks into a school building with( 2 gun's),baseball bats,spears, bombs,weapons!!!! Who was watching !!!!!Were was the security camera's!!!! Who was watching!!!!!!.I have worked as a security guard someone was asleep!!!!!WHO WAS WATCHING!!!!! are we going to let someone walk into our homes and schools with guns are any weapons!!!!! Who was watching our kids!!! We need to go to our schools as parents and see Who is watching over our kids at School!!!! Are we so involved in our teaching that we can't see a man walking into a school with 2 gun's!!!! Who is watching our kids!!!!!!How did this happen!!!!! Something is wrong in our school systems that cannot see a man walk in the front door which should have been locked or key coded,cameras, with two guns,spears,bombs,weapons!!!! Who Was watching or looking out for those kids!!!!!!! I carry guns, will carry guns, they may get me but I WILL TAKE SOME OF THEM WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!