Powder Painting Questions

I used search and also spent time googling around....but

I already bought several hundred tri-head jigs from litewirehooker on the forum here.

Which size fluid bed cup and why? (1.5, 2. or 3 ??)

Start simple with a single cup set up? KISS mentality

For just a guy looking to do a few jigs in custom colors this winter (500) is a candle, alcohol, or heat gun the easiest to get right.

Is a polyester powder ok, as I can get a pound for $12 vs 2oz for $8 for pro tech stuff. Something like this.....
Powder Coating Coat Paint Ral 6018 Yellow Green 1lb New | eBay

Basic tools: fine needle nose, eye cleaner, rack, acetone? and of course Makers Mark....

What does adding clear to the powder painting process do for me that using a straight gloss powder paint doesn't or is it basically used to thin it out some.

Will the paint harden up "enough" naturally by just sitting to air or is baking absolute

Thank you in advance for one who is in the weeds here :dono

I can't answer all your questions but try on some.
I use heat gun because I had it,tried candle and didn't like.
Curved tip forcips work for me clamp over hook eye help keep paint out.
2in cup for me. Build one and could always modify to 3 if necessary.
No reason to add clear to a standard color that I know of.
I heat,paint,then clean paint from around eye then bake. You don't have to bake but paint will chip off eventually with out it.
Make a rack out of a coat hanger I just bent 2 90degree bends twisted a eye in each end and screwed to a scrap board.
Paint will not harden in air.
Fatman and some of the other guys will get on here some suggestions who beter versed in this than I am.

Thank you that really helps me start understand as I am looking to get a fluid bed today and order some powders. On my lake the teal or bluegrass and WmW color is a killer so I wanted to do this as I could not find these colors offered. Plus it seems interesting.....real reason

Which size fluid bed cup and why? (1.5, 2. or 3 ??) I made my own 2" fluid beds and I can do up to 1/4 oz heads with no problem. There is a sticky at the top showing how to do it

Start simple with a single cup set up? KISS mentality Single bed is fine IF!!! you're going to be doing 50/100 of one solid color, then you'll have to change to another cup. If you get the screw in cups as I show, you can just get several cups. I made two extra beds as I won my first bed on another board

For just a guy looking to do a few jigs in custom colors this winter (500) is a candle, alcohol, or heat gun the easiest to get right. After trying a bunch of different ways, I personnally like the heat gun. I got a Wagner for $21 at Home Depot - their in the paint section

Is a polyester powder ok, as I can get a pound for $12 vs 2oz for $8 for pro tech stuff. Something like this.....
Powder Coating Coat Paint Ral 6018 Yellow Green 1lb New | eBay
Powder Coating Equipment Colors Guns Paint Systems Cost
ColumbiaCoatings.com - Best Powders - Best Service - Best Price! They have a 3lbs for $30 special, you have to pick from their chart https://www.columbiacoatings.com/3_F...s_p/3for30.htm
Rosey's Powder Coating | Rosey's Powder Coating They have a Candy & Fluorescent & Chrome Sampler - 16 colors - Over 3 lbs! - (3 ozs of each)
Powders

Basic tools: fine needle nose, eye cleaner, rack, acetone? and of course Makers Mark.... Pretty much tht's it, this is a picture of my rack that I use for drying http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...f/Jigs/001.jpg Just an aluminum bread pan and poke holes around the edges and fold over and spills go inside the pan. If you search for powder paint racks you'll find a bunch of different ones

What does adding clear to the powder painting process do for me that using a straight gloss powder paint doesn't or is it basically used to thin it out some. I have learned and been given advice on this one. Clear with some of the really heavy powders will help it go on easier without overloading it. Two colors I do this to are Jann's White and Black - they are heavy powder

Will the paint harden up "enough" naturally by just sitting to air or is baking absolute Simple answer to this - If you're going to go to all the trouble and cost of using powder CURE THEM

On the fluid bed you didn't mention a pump so here's what I use Tetra Whisper 60 - The pic shows a 20 but I took it back for the 60 http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...d/100_1111.jpg I can easily run 3, 2" beds at the same time with this pump
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Thank you sir. I read the sticky but I am just going to buy a 3" fluid bed with 3 extra cups. Your advice helped dramatically. Really like the bread pan idea and how you put them on pieces of bathroom tile, makes sense. I think I will just get a couple of basic colors and keep in some of the wife's mason jars for now. This will get me going and provide a work test bed for making the mistakes i am sure I will make. I also noticed the old newspaper you put down....like that also

Thanks guys for helping me out

I bought a dual 2" 2 cup set up w/4 extra cups. Several colors (8) in the 1lb lots. Got some clear and silver glitter also. ....figure I could maybe trade some for other colors after I get going. Found an ebay 2 temp heat gun (575f & 900f) w/stand....could not see myself holding these jigs and a gun at the same time. Now to build another bench for the man cave to put this on......away from my reloading stuff :banghead

Now a 2x6 cut and some bathroom tile w/silicone caulk....to secure to 2x6 block with and mount a clip on light.

Now i am primed for a spectacular failure/mess.....:biggrin

Thank you again

"No honey I have not seen your good Kerr canning jars or your bread pans" :dono

Sounds like you are about to get setup to do some nice powder painting. You will like playing around with the clear coat. I have a few colors that are always mixed with clear like the thicker paints that wants to go on to thick. Good luck and post some pics of your setup and painted jigs when you can.

How miney cups do you need to PP jigs. Do you mix the colors or can you clean cup out good enuff to put more color in them. I may try to start building some. Thanks

Gindog - If you want to paint 3 colors have 3 cups. Now if your going to mix colors you'll need separate containers for those. Now depending what type bed you have will depend on what kind of cups you'll want. The beds I made the powder cup screws into the base. Which ever type make sure there is a thick base on the bottom of it so you can glue your filter on it.

Fatman what all do I need to start looking for to get started? What colors do you'll recommend at a starter colors. I think yellow, green, orange, white any other colors. How do you get the eyes on them? I see I am going have go to YouTube

Well alot depends on where your fishing. For a basic set IMO I'd do yellow, orange, black, pink, white and chartreuse. You can also brush tap one color on top of another for two tones. If you're going to want glitter on your jigs you're going to need clear and a lot of it. If you have some small containers you can mix some colors together for other colors, i.e.
yellow/orange - red
black/yellow - olive
black/white - gray

Once you start mixing or brush tapping you'll find yourself with a lot of jars, and when you mix WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU MIXED!!!!!!! I have a color and all that's on the lid is screwed up and it's one of my favorite mixs - goes great by itself and I've brushed tapped it over white pearl and yellow.

Powder paint eyes can be done but it takes a lot of practice. Alot of folks are using stick on eyes and coating them. Ball heads can be squeezed to make pill heads jigs and it gives a nice flat area to put the eyes on.

Thanks for info. I going to do some looking in to it. I'm running short of funs right now.

Ok initial set up

Place I ordered from sent a single bed and I ordered a dual. :scratchhead Oh well...I will email him but not going to get wound up over it.

I can already tell I wish i would have ordered the 3" cup set up instead of the 2" I did.....:banghead

I already tested my delonghi oven I got. Runs hot but I have a thermometer.

I took a 2x6 and fixed the cup to it using silicone. Added a little spray paint the board prior.

I made a quick jig rack out of a 2x6's. Maybe 10 inch gap between. I ripped another 2x6 in half then drilled holes and ran wooden shish-kabob skewers from the wife's cooking drawer Devil Icon then put a dab of glue on each end of kabob and slid them through. Used 3" deck screws to secure the vertical ripped 2x6s to the plank. Added paint to it prior also. Maybe 15 minutes work.

I might try a few later after the silicone cures out and I am already entertained....:ThumbsUp

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...es/powder1.jpg

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Nice set up KAG !!!!

As the others have mentioned,clear really comes in handy not only when thinning down colors,but is a must when you start mixing custom colors and especially if you start adding some glitters to the mix.

For heat source Ive tried all the methods and an alcohol burner is my preference..

I fought curing for years,but it really is necessary...if you want a head to last.

Before ........

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...hughes/jig.jpg

And afterward....1st time. Used a candle. 2 tsp of translucent teal and 1 tsp of clear

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Wish I would have gotten the 3", absolutely no question

You got everything looking good now. When you get a few done then your in trouble:Rofl more paint more jigs. You need to hang that OSU thing up as a backdrop:biggrin

Truly.....Thank you for every ones help:HandsClapping:HandsClapping

Nice setup and enough materials to get you in deeper :):) the painted jigs look good.
I used a 2" cup for a long time. Just built a 1 1/4 bed and like it better.

Sweet...off to a good start ! Good looking color too !

Nice buddy!!!!!!!!!!! Where'd you get the teal powder??? or if you mixed what recipe??? That color will make a great tap on color!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice buddy!!!!!!!!!!! Where'd you get the teal powder??? or if you mixed what recipe??? That color will make a great tap on color!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lots & lots of colors. So far i have not had to do anything to the red sickle hook eyes. No idea why but the translucent teal does not stick to it but is hard as nails on the lead part

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Lots & lots of colors. So far i have not had to do anything to the red sickle hook eyes. No idea why but the translucent teal does not stick to it but is hard as nails on the lead part

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Great post with the colors . . . so many colors with so few jigs to cover . . . did use get some other colors? good looking teal color. Haven't tried sickle hooks, old school still use aberdeen.

Hookem and Netem

Just a few.....living proof that if i can do it...anyone can

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The painted heads look great KAG, nice work. You have the plastic baits up side down, do you use them like that.

I like the translucent but I'd also like a solid in it also. What cure times were you using??

I have been using ever since it came out and I found that the heat gun for heating the jigs is the best way.I also use the fluid bed for a better finish and I bake for a harder finish.If the eyes have bake on paint just heat up a paper clip tip red hot and it will go right though it and clear the eye.If you want to powder paint spinner bait and not the hook just heat the body and not the hook.When dipping dip hook first then with a small brush brush off the hook then hang and bake...............woody

The first pictures is the flame that I use attached to 20 lb cylinder.......been using for years on same tank.


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These are the finished products headed west tomorrow.

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Here is a cheap idea I wanted to share about powder painting. Take your wife's cookie cooling sheet and bend it in half. I can hold over a hundred jigs and they all fit in my toaster oven.

Jighead you didn't get whacked for appropriating the wifes stuff!!!!!!:Rofl

What type of filter material are y'all using in the beds?

I have some polyprophelene mesh a guy sent me and it works pretty good but TJ's tackle has the hard circular disks of it.