Interesting developments coming down the pike...
Greg ? on AS GR HS
We shall see...we shall see...
Rickie
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Interesting developments coming down the pike...
Greg ? on AS GR HS
We shall see...we shall see...
Rickie
sounds interesting
Sounds like a logical next step and a big help in staying on a spot.
This makes me wonder about something: Just how far out into the future does Lowrance and Humminbird work and plan? I have a friend who used to work for GM in drawing and planning automobiles into a 10or 15 or 20 yr future, so that they knew long before a new car or design was released just when they would release it for sale to the public. Now I know technology changes quickly these days, but it just seems that just about the time a new depth finder, or trolling motor, or whatever is released, then quickly on the heels of it they come out with something better. Gosh, the Concepts Department (or whatever they call it) at Humminbird and Lowrance must be some interesting place to work. I'm sure those companies already know what technologies they are going to unveil in the next few months and even years. Can you imagine what depth finders and trolling motors (even "fishing" in general) will be like in 5 yrs? 10 yrs? 20 yrs??? Wow!
wonder if this new thing could be applied to existing HB units to eliminate the "red circle" as HG referred to it. LOL.
I'd about expect so. What it does is figure position based on movement from the last GPS fix. It would seem like they could do an update to the unit to handle the extra data.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimp
Electronics is a little different. Most parts have a lifecycle of around 2 to 5 years before they are replaced by something newer/better/faster/smaller. About 50 electronic components become obsolete every day. That's 1500 a month or 18,000 a year. When you figure all the parts in a unit, things go obsolete pretty often and it drives manufacturers to redesign their products around every 18 months or so to accomodate new parts. They can't just stock up on parts because then they will be wasted if their competition forces them to update their units to include a new feature, though obsolescence notices do allow you to buy enough parts to keep you going until you think your next version will be ready. If you have to redesign, and you have a new feature ready, you include it in the redesign. If you are a big player like Sony or Samsung, you can stretch it out because you are ordering enough parts to make it worthwhile for a manufacturer to stay in production on an older technology. Even the largest of fishing electronics makers isn't close to big enough to carry that kind of weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyfishman
I'm not really sure about this being satilite based technology ...Quote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
It almost sounds like the round GPS antenna itself contains this "Heading Sensor" at a certain point on the front edge of the puck... And then the head unit takes that position of the "Heading Sensor" to display the way the boat is pointing...(it's may just be the head unit "knowing" where this "Heading Sensor" is... Instead of the earth's satilites knowing where the GPS antenna is...)...does that make sense..??
Greg mentions ..."the way the boat is pointing...not necessarily the direction of travel"...
If this is true then the boat could be drifting (or moving) in any direction at "donut" speed...but the arrow on the chart will still point the way the boat is facing...
An example would be in my spider riggin....I slow troll "forward" up to a brushpile...let off the TM...the boat (and the icon on the chart view) drift "backwards"...but the direction arrow still points "forward" on the chart view...
While this may replace the Red Circle (donut) with a "boat orientation arrow"... It's still to be determined if this new development will satisfy slow troller's need...(I sure hope so)..
Another point that comes to mind is that this development seems to be a hardware replacement...the GPS antenna itself...
This could put me personally into a difficult decision...
Give up my AS GR HA antenna "vs" no donut..that may be a tough decision for me...
Technology is so interesting....
Rickie
As with MOST electronic equipment once it is available for purchase by the public (customers) the unit is already out of date by at least 2 or 3 newer units developed in the lab. No , you can't buy them either because as soon as you buy it, you may find that it isn't any better ( faster, more accurate, better suited ) than what's already on the market. 30 years with IBM taught me this.
Guys...looks like the ETA for arrival on these receivers is 10/26. Seems like Greg W. and I had a little conversation about these a while back..... LOL
Brian
Not to be a skeptic here, but I have not seen a heading sensor unit for less than $500usd.
Well you will now.
Wish I had more information to offer you guys but about all I know has already been stated. I have not seen one on the water yet and it look like I won't get to this month at least (normal training duties will interfere with that! :mad:).
I think you are right Rickie. I was expecting to see a inertial nav sensor as the next step. Heading is still good.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Looks like full list price will be under $200.00Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
Brian
A little more info, which makes perfect sense: This is going to be required to accurately mark waypoints with a 360 sonar. It seems reasonable that the 360 would have to know which may the boat is pointing when the image is captured to be able to mark a waypoint.
I believe this receiver will come with the 360 unit. Previously all heading sensors I have seen installed on boats were for radar.
I also think this unit is based on the High Accuracy gps with electronic compass.
edit it was me that posted the ? to Greg on the other board.
What is the 360?
360 imagining.
More detail on the new GPS with Heading Sensor and picture.
Humminbird AS GPS HS Precision GPS Antenna w/Heading Sensor
i not sure were i read this, but i think someone posted that this sensor thingey that yall are talking about was not on the humminbird web site. so herres a link that i saw yesterday............AS GRP undeur model number click the drop down menu
duncan,thats the best compliment that ive ever heard you say about humminbird.your saying that this puck with the sensor in it is valued more than humminbird is charging its customers for it.once again, " thanks humminbird" ands thanks duncan, i believe your headed back to humminbird in the future:crazy:Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
"When used with 360 Imaging, provides the ability to mark accurate waypoints anywhere on the screen"
Rickie, I think it's wishful thinking that this would change the donut. It's a critical component for the 360 to work correctly, and provide factual gps data to the user. Hopefully this will be the last hurdle for the 360 release, so Kosmo can buy one and get screenshots.
Don't get all warm and fuzzy. HB had no choice but to either create a heading sensor in the GPS puck, or modify all of the 360 units that have already been produced. It would be pretty easy to assume that this was an issue that was found out after the initial production.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
It could pave the way for a donut removal though. If they take the time to update the code.
glad i saw this thread. was about to buy a puck for my kayak, will look more closely at this and perhaps swap with one of my motor boat pucks.