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How many rods per person?
anything over 3 has to be labeled
You just can't go over 33 hooks total..........I think.
first three hooks do not need labels. Next 30 need to be labelled with name and address. Technically if you have two jigs on each pole labelling would need to begin on the second pole.
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Originally Posted by MOfishmgr
Two pole trollers need to look at this. I use address labels that the NRA or Elk federation sends for mine. I just take the label and place it just above the handle and put a piece of clear tape over it so it last. They will last for several years. Some guys wrap there business cards around the lower end of the pole and tape over them.
All mine are labeled now. Would hate to be accidently be fishing with a unlabeled one and be checked.
Wow....good to know about using two poles and needing a label.
Use can use up to 33 labeled hooks on those lakes that allow up to 33 hooks, smithville, Truman, or any large ACOE reservoir that allows other methods like jugs or bank lines, is an example. Wanted to clarify to those folks that fish the smaller lakes, that you can only use 3 poles on lakes that only allow pole and line fishing, most of the smaller MDC lakes, or lakes that under a CAP (community assisstance program) agreement are pole and line only, and you can only use 3 rods on those...dont want anyone to get in trouble. I get asked that all the time, and lakes like mozingo fall under the CAP category, and you cannot use jugs/limb lines, so its 3 rods, with one hook on each rod...or 2 rods with a double rig on one, and a single on the other.
I did not know that!!! Good info. Thanks Tmason!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tmason
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Originally Posted by speck
Glad this section got added. Have learned several things from this one and the biologist section.
Well we did a little more digging in the code and Tory and I were both wrong! Although in Tory's defense, he was probably following my lead. But at least we were wrong in such a way that no one would get in trouble. The rule is strictly based on the number of poles, with a limit on the number of hooks per pole. So in a small lake with a three pole limit you could have three jigs on three poles and still be in compliance based on the following defintion of a pole and line.
(44) Pole and line: Fishing methods using tackle normally held in the hand, such as a
cane pole, casting rod, spinning rod, fly rod, or ice fishing tackle commonly known as a
tip-up, to which not more than three (3) hooks with bait or lures are attached. This
fishing method does not include snagging, snaring, grabbing, or trotlines or other tackle
normally attached in a fixed position.
In waterbodies that allow trotlining, jugs, etc, you will need to label pole number 4 and up. At no time can you excede 3 hooks per pole or a total of 33 hooks. All unattended lines, bank poles, jugs, etc. must be labelled. Even we have to resort to researching regs every now and then. Sorry if we confused anyone.
Stay away my friend…I fished with you plenty and you’re a hazard on the water with one rod and one hook!:RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by Joedog
No tree is safe.:dono
As usual there are some great points already listed here; hopefully though I can add a little bit and continue to clarify the Code for you all.
- Under 3CSR 10-6.410 (2A) Number of poles and hooks: Not more than three (3) unlabeled poles and not more than thirty-three (33) hooks in the aggregate, for ANY or ALL methods, may be used by any person at one time.
Therefore, (with all other area rules and reg’s. being followed) a single person cannot exceed 3 unlabeled poles and/or 33 hooks at one time, regardless of how many lakes/streams/rivers/etc. are being fished.There are some exceptions involving the Mississippi River – If interested see 3CSR 10-6.410 (2B).
- Under 3CSR 10-20.805 (44) Pole and line: Fishing methods using tackle normally held in the hand, such as a cane pole, casting rod, spinning rod, fly rod, or ice fishing tackle commonly known as a tip-up, to which not more than three (3) hooks with bait or lures are attached. This fishing method does not include snagging, snaring, grabbing, or trotlines or other tackle normally attached in a fixed position.
- Under 3CSR 10-20.805 (30) Hook: Single- or multiple-pronged hooks and the ordinary artificial lures with attached single- or multiple-pronged hooks and dropper flies. A multiple-pronged hook or two (2) or more hooks employed to hold a single bait, shall be considered a single hook in counting the allowable total in use.
SIDE NOTE: 3CSR 10-6.410 (2C) Trotlines and throwlines of more than one (1) individual may be joined together, but the number of hooks in the aggregate shall not exceed the prescribed number for one (1) individual on the waters that are being fished, and the lines must be labeled with each person’s full name and address or Conservation Number.
Hope you guys don't mind my asking, but what purpose does the label on the pole serve?
I've just never heard of this and am curious
You ok if your on ground level with you Joe, Its the top of the trees that have to look out (LOL)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joedog
I'm sure it's the way the MDC came up with to enforce state regs. If someone is out setting bank lines, an agent can account for whose property it is, as well as whether that fisherman is in compliance with the allowable number of hooks in the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkcrappie
Thanks. I have never fished Missouri but possibly could. Laws like this are easy to overlook or just plain not know. That is surely something I am not used to but will keep it in mind if I ever start fishing there.
I think this rule for spider rigging is not a very sensible rule! If you are with your poles at all times then why do you need to attach a name and address. I was in Arkansas last July and called Arkansas DNR to ask pole limit and regulations and told him about the Missouri rule and he laughed and said why do you have to mark your poles if you are in contact with them at all times,my thoughts exactly!!! I did the mailing labels for a while and they work but later on I ordered some brass trap identification tags , they work great!!!
what about like bass fishing. I may have 5 or 6 rods in my boat with different lures on each but I only use one pole at a time. is that legal to have that many in the boat?
How did you attach the trapping tags? Sounds like a more permanent way to mark/label rods.
in missouri it doesnt matter how many poles are in the boat, all that matter are what you are using at the time. of course I am known to use multiple poles at a time so all my poles are labeled, just to be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by olduckhunter
I also understand that it is now acceptable to just label your trot lines, set lines and jug lines with JUST your conservation number. would this be acceptable for labeling fishing poles, too?
I attach the trapping tags in the reel seat,just wrap around the reel seat before putting the reel on the rod,before you put the reel on the rod take a small zip tie and suck it up real tight then put the reel on the rod and roll the big part of the zip tie up against the bottom of the reel.you can actually place the big part of the zip tie out of the way totally ,depends on how you hold the pole.
Would work great using the tags of the conservation number is all you need.
The tags are actually copper not brass.
All of this back and forth discussion about the number of rods a person can use at one time is very valuable and beneficial for all fisherman in MO. About three weeks ago when the Stone County area was getting some warm days I decided to spider rig around the pt 15 area above Cape Fair on Table Rock. I was stopped by an old man and his fishing buddy and they told me that if a conservation agent saw me that I would get a ticket. I tried to assure him that I read the rule book and even called the Conservation before I spent the time and money on several rods and a home made t bar. He was adamant that I would still get a ticket and so I went home and checked again and he was obviously wrong. He told me that there were different rules for Table Rock and the state rules did not apply to Table Rock. He was wrong. The Conservation office in Springfield said that I could use up to 33 rods, but every rod over three had to be labeled and I really like the idea of using address labels. I just use a piece of masking tape. Good discussions men.
Probably the same old man that argued with me on Stockton. Never could convince him that I was legal. The address labels work well.
There are some crazzzzzzy peoples on the Rock, Me being the worst of the worst, but hey label over three and your good to go......
and by the way if you see the big man in the red tracker, grey arm chair up front give a shout out, I fish that area quite a bit in the spring and summer, but I never post on the trips well hardly ever, we use to have a camp up at Joe Longs for years, He and my dad were good friends, then it sold and went straight to lllllllllllllllll anyway
The reg. states that the label has to include " full name and address, or conservation number", granted I am a little slow, but does that mean that "just your conservation number" is acceptable?
I'm re-doing my noodles and want to label them correctly.
Hey beagleman, Ill do my best to remember your description. I fish out of a blue and silver Ranger 320V with a 100hp Mariner. I will usually spider rig up around pt 15, however, I think I will try to go up Flat a little further this year later in the spring just to see what I can do. I have caught some monster slabs up there back in the late 80s early 90s. Funny that you mention Longs camp. From Blunks down to Longs the last two years, fishin has been hot. Anyway, Ill be lookin for you.
Yes rookie, just the conservation number is acceptable. You might label them: Cons# 123456789
This was a great thread. Thanks
thanks all
I rarely, if ever use more than one rod at a time. None of my rods are labeled and my favorite rod was new in 1980, I replaced it's cork handle in 1984 with an electrically heated handle for winter fishing. That handle quit working a couple of years later but here in 2016 I still use the rod. If the DOC catches me will they take rod and my Fishing license?
On second thought, I don't have a fishing license...
No, you can use up to 3 unlabeled poles at one time, and up to 3 Hooks on each line. I wouldn't think a game warden would take your equipment, even if you were using more than 3 unlabeled poles at once, if that was the only law you were in violation of. Unless you were giving said warden a bunch of grief, then who knows what might happen. Lol personally, I have never had a bad experience with a game warden. I show them some respect and they return the favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank,J
i do the address label & tape alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jigging15
maybe i am wrong but i thought u could only use three hooks total on pole and line. so three hooks on one pole, or two on one pole and one on another or 3 poles with one hook each. so if i am reading the post up above i could have 3 poles with 3 hooks each for a total of 9 hooks being fished at one time by one person.
Yes that is correct. Anything over that you have to make sure they are labeled.