Youth limits?

This has been discussed on here before and not sure we got a correct answer. If fishig with a youth young enough to not have a MO fishing permit can they keep their daily limit along with the adult fishing with them? Or is it just one limit combined by the two anglers? This was split when discussed before on here before. What if there is two youth in the boat? Does there need to be two adults with permits? I don't keep fish very often but when taking the kids there is times they like to keep their fish which usually still does not put us over one limit. But they like to put them in the live well. Hard to make them throw them back.

i live in Ga. don`t know that state regulation but i would think each youth could catch the limit . was down in Fla. at lake Talquin and a fishermen named his son one more limit. i would check the state regulations or ask a game warden .

A youth can keep their limit in MO. Youth cannot use jugs or trotlines without having a permit. A youth can buy a permit and then use these methods. I usually defer to Agents for the permit questions, but will help out on teh easy ones until we get more of them on here responding.

Thanks for the quick reply. Now I will have to clean fish more often I guess since I can't hardly get them to throw them back. Fun for them to catch them and want to clean so they can eat what they caught. They sure did not get that from me since I don't eat fish.

Jigging15 thank you for asking that question I've been wondering that my self and a thank you too MOfishmgr for answering that.

yeah thats vthe way it is in ks ican take my wife and 3 grandsons to pomona fish 1 day bring home 250 fish to clean 1 trip fills the freezer for a year

J, you are right, it is sure hard to make them chunk fish back. Our HOA lake is CR for all bass at this time, taking the niece and her buddy out trolling cranks will yield an easy catch every few minutes, but man they HATE throwing them back. I have them read the sign at the ramp before we go.

"We can keep everything other than bass, okay?"

As some of you have already pointed out – Yes, any person fifteen (15) years of age or younger may take fish, live bait, clams, mussels, turtles, and frogs, IN ACCORDANCE WITH FISHING REGULATIONS (chapter 6 of the wildlife code), without permit (except trout permits or daily tags in areas where prescribed) except that fish may only be taken by gig, bow, crossbow, snagging, snaring, grabbing, and by pole and line.

Therefore, any person 15 or younger may take their own daily limit given all other methods, seasons, etc. are followed. As always, ensure that all fish are kept separate and identifiable so that each persons' take may be readily determined during inspection.

"Therefore, any person 15 or younger may take their own daily limit given all other methods, seasons, etc. are followed. As always, ensure that all fish are kept separate and identifiable so that each persons' take may be readily determined during inspection."

That's about the way it is in Minnesota, too, as I understand it. That used to be only for residents, but now it also covers non-resident youths. The only real difference is that here we can party fish and help each other fill a total limit, which then must be distributed when the party breaks up so that no one person has more than an individual limit in possession. And here possession includes cleaned fish in the freezer.

I do not find it all that difficult to get youngsters who fish with me to release what they catch, not if one brings a camera along. I use such terms as recyling the resource, and protecting the breeding stock or put it back to grow up, or just let's not kill this one. The bigger problem tends to be when some other adult interferes. If everybody is on the same page, the kids understand, especially if they still have the bragging pictures to show momma or grandma or grandpa. The kids have a right to pride in their accomplishments, but that does not mean something has to be killed to make that happen.

I more or less do not approve of unlicensed youth keeping their own limits. That goes for unlimited children under family licenses, too. I also do not approve of very young fishermen who are not supervised by older relatives. I would place a minimum age for unsupervised fishing to about 8, definitely no younger.

Our resources up here are too fragile to allow that sort of unlimited harvest and fishing waters are simply too dangerous for the very young to be around by themselves. I see children dropped off by parents who then go about other business every once in a while. Other adults are then forced into watching out for them. To me that is irresponsible. If one has the kids one needs to take responsibility for them.

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The kids have a right to pride in their accomplishments, but that does not mean something has to be killed to make that happen.

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Might work with fishin but not too well teachin them to hunt.

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I more or less do not approve of unlicensed youth keeping their own limits. Our resources up here are too fragile to allow that sort of unlimited harvest

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It's not unlimited the limit is the same as adults. I think it's nice Parents do not have to pay to get their kids into the outdoors! In MO we have half price hunting permits also.

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and fishing waters are simply too dangerous for the very young to be around by themselves. I see children dropped off by parents

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Bad parents are bad parents, has nothing to do with fishing.

Bad parenting has to do with anything their kids interfere with including fishing. Polite, courteous children are a joy to see catch fish on the other hand. I see far more of that than the other, but inevitably their parents are there to supervise, too. For the most part those parents and children also practice catch and release, or at least limited harvest with no complaint by the children. Perhaps that is a shoreline thing, not so obvious to boat fishermen.

This is an important issue. How do we encourage children to get out into the great outdoors without them getting into trouble or creating problems for those who did not chose to have them. The sportsman who takes his or her kids along and teaches them to participate responsibly is not the one for whom the rules have to be made and enforced. Those folks will follow the rules regardless and have my respect. There are just too many others around.

A lot of thought needs to go into this, way more than has been. One has to make and enforce the rules so that they do not unnecessarily hamper the really honest, keep the marginally honest honest and impede the dishonest. That is a whole lot harder than just putting it into one sentence. When it comes to children participating in a wider world there are millions of pitfalls to work around. Fishing isn't the only consideration in this.

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"Therefore, any person 15 or younger may take their own daily limit given all other methods, seasons, etc. are followed. As always, ensure that all fish are kept separate and identifiable so that each persons' take may be readily determined during inspection."

That's about the way it is in Minnesota, too, as I understand it. That used to be only for residents, but now it also covers non-resident youths. The only real difference is that here we can party fish and help each other fill a total limit, which then must be distributed when the party breaks up so that no one person has more than an individual limit in possession. And here possession includes cleaned fish in the freezer.

I do not find it all that difficult to get youngsters who fish with me to release what they catch, not if one brings a camera along. I use such terms as recyling the resource, and protecting the breeding stock or put it back to grow up, or just let's not kill this one. The bigger problem tends to be when some other adult interferes. If everybody is on the same page, the kids understand, especially if they still have the bragging pictures to show momma or grandma or grandpa. The kids have a right to pride in their accomplishments, but that does not mean something has to be killed to make that happen.

I more or less do not approve of unlicensed youth keeping their own limits. That goes for unlimited children under family licenses, too. I also do not approve of very young fishermen who are not supervised by older relatives. I would place a minimum age for unsupervised fishing to about 8, definitely no younger.

Our resources up here are too fragile to allow that sort of unlimited harvest and fishing waters are simply too dangerous for the very young to be around by themselves. I see children dropped off by parents who then go about other business every once in a while. Other adults are then forced into watching out for them. To me that is irresponsible. If one has the kids one needs to take responsibility for them.

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Bet you are a blast at parties.
:fish<<<<<<<kid fishing for a limit without adult supervision.

LOL yep!

Not much of a partyer, but then I am allergic enough to alcohol that I am not subject to alcoholism and so have avoided being stupidly drunk for a very long time. In fact I have to drink awful fast just to get loaded, I normally get miserably sick far quicker. Either way I do not enjoy the misery that results from either of those things. I had to learn that the hard way though. I suppose I am stupid often enough sober; so that is enough for me to handle anyway. I like a single quality beer or a good shot of quality Scotch or bourbon once in a while, but I have to stop there. For me there is very little enjoyment beyond that point. So I simply do not seem the point. That significantly reduces the number of parties that I am comfortable at and the number of those where I am really welcome. It cuts both ways.

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LOL yep!

Not much of a partyer, but then I am allergic enough to alcohol that I am not subject to alcoholism and so have avoided being stupidly drunk for a very long time. In fact I have to drink awful fast just to get loaded, I normally get miserably sick far quicker. Either way I do not enjoy the misery that results from either of those things. I had to learn that the hard way though. I suppose I am stupid often enough sober; so that is enough for me to handle anyway. I like a single quality beer or a good shot of quality Scotch or bourbon once in a while, but I have to stop there. For me there is very little enjoyment beyond that point. So I simply do not seem the point. That significantly reduces the number of parties that I am comfortable at and the number of those where I am really welcome. It cuts both ways.

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Uh...............................ok then..............................I think?

:fish:fish:fish:fish:fish

Oh no, nows there's a group of em. Call the posum cops or even Social Services.

Bob for some reason the title to a fishing movie with some older men keeps popping in my head????:scratchhead

Yeah, well he may be Minnesota's no1son, but here in MO, his attitude smells like no2 to me.