actual fishin questions, go figure (and, it's my birthday)

trying to make up some spare double, c&c type, minner rigs and need some questions answered. i know there are some threads that address all of this but just can't find them....

1- when the wind is little or no factor what weight size do you find most effective?
2- i am currently using 6# hi-vis and number 6 red hooks, is there more effective combo's?
3- i am using a three way swivel. how far do yall have from the swivel to the weight and then how far from the weight down to the hook?
4- how long is the short line to the other hook?

any info would be appreciated......

1/2 oz weight.

I almost always use half oz weights.The distance between the hooks and the weight varies (for me)depending on how deep of water i'm fishing.If i'm fishing shallow ,i like them about a foot above and below the weight.In deeper water I may go 18'' to 24'',with a little heavier weight.My hook above the weight,I like it about 6'' off the main line.Goodluck Windstone.

1/2oz weight
8 to 10 inches from swivel to weight
8 to 10 inches from weight to hook
6 inches on top hook
take in mind that i dont spider rig i just single pole but i see a lot of folks double rigs and they are all a little different in some way
good luck

I reread your post and I don't use any swivels.The only time I would use a swivel if i were to pretie rigs and I don't.IMO it would not hurt a thing to go a couple size larger on your hooks.Ok i'm done now.

Rig sounds ok wt I use 1 oz, the hook size seems kinda small i dont use anything smaller than a #1.

thanks folks, that the kind of info i need. pretty much gonna follow yall's advice and maybe go a little bigger on the hooks...

The smallest hook/jig I use is a #4, the largest is a 4/0.
I have a snap swivel on the main line on the rods.
The rig is 3 foot long. A loop at both ends. Hooks/jigs and loops are 1 foot apart.
Top loop goes on snap, bottom loop has a bank sinker. I use a 3/4 oz. to 3 oz. sinker depending on water conditions, speed and depth.

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I reread your post and I don't use any swivels.The only time I would use a swivel if i were to pretie rigs and I don't.IMO it would not hurt a thing to go a couple size larger on your hooks.Ok i'm done now.

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C, when you hit 70, which i did today, your eyes can't stand the bright sun, rockin boat, watching four other poles and trying to thread a needle, all at the same time, i got to have pre riggs.:banghead geezerism does have it's draw backs.....

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Originally Posted by windstone

thanks folks, that the kind of info i need. pretty much gonna follow yall's advice and maybe go a little bigger on the hooks...

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I rarely use a minnow hook smaller than a #2. Most times I'm using a #1 or 1/0

Happy birthday, sir!

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C, when you hit 70, which i did today, your eyes can't stand the bright sun, rockin boat, watching four other poles and trying to thread a needle, all at the same time, i got to have pre riggs.:banghead geezerism does have it's draw backs.....

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Happy Birthday.

Happy birthday windstone.

happy birthday windstone :biggrin

I didn't catch it till I reread the title.
Happy Birthday Sir.

Happy Birthday!!

Happy Birthday Windstone. Check B&M pole web site or catalog. Thet sell C&C Riggs and list a chart for line lengths,weights for different depths. Like Big C I tie mine for different depths shallow shorter and deeper longer and heavier weight. #1 and 1/0 hooks sometimes even 2/0 .

Happy Birthday!

As for double rigs, I have used several different ways to make them and haven't found one better than the other. I have grown tired of short lines on 3 way swivels because of the time to tie 5 knots to fish one pole. I gonna get some of the fast snaps or whatever they are called. The things that allow you to change out the hooks without re-tying. I am gonna take one regular swivel to attach the rig to the main line to the reel (may even use a snap there too). Then below the regular swivel I will run enough leader to allow a snap to be tied using a loop knot about 6" down then run the line thru a 1/2 oz bullet weight 4 times 12" below the loop and then another loop knot 12" below it to attach the bottom snap. Adjust line lengths depending on depth and structure. This way I can change out hook size, jig size, or any type of bait quickly. If it breaks off all I gotta do during the trip is pull out another rig and snap it on or at worst tie on another snap first. Just an idea and I may scrap the idea when I put it to the test. I agree with those fishing #2-1/0 hooks and usually always fish 1/2 - 1 oz of lead. I like the bullet style for less drag.

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Happy B Day. Even up here with our smaller than yours fish I use a #2 hook and a 1oz.weight.

happy birthday sir

Happy Birthday!!!

Happy Birthday Windstone

Happy BD Windstone!!!

I use a barrel swivel on my main line. I pre tie my rigs by running two fast snaps on the rig line which for me is 10 or 12lb Silver Thread AN-40 in Silver. I tie a snap swivel on the bottom, and make loop knots for my drops,(distance between drops and the bottom snap swivel depends on the depth I'll be fishing. I pre tie several different sets of rigs for this so I change if I need to.). I put a Fast Snap in each drop so I can change from a jig to a hook, or change jig colors. This keeps me from having to tie different rigs for different combinations or jig colors. I then tie a larger snap swivel to the top of the rig so I can attach the rig to the main line. I can change my weight to whatever size is needed on the bottom snap swivel. (I usually use a 1/4, 3/8, or 1/2 oz for SLOW presentations, and a 1oz or larger for FASTER presentations). Works good for me.


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Happy Birthday!

As for double rigs, I have used several different ways to make them and haven't found one better than the other. I have grown tired of short lines on 3 way swivels because of the time to tie 5 knots to fish one pole. I gonna get some of the fast snaps or whatever they are called. The things that allow you to change out the hooks without re-tying. I am gonna take one regular swivel to attach the rig to the main line to the reel (may even use a snap there too). Then below the

regular swivel I will run enough leader to allow a snap to be tied using a loop knot about 6" down then run the line thru
a 1/2 oz bullet weight 4 times 12" below the loop and then another loop knot 12" below it to attach the bottom snap.
Adjust line lengths depending on depth and structure. This way I can change out hook size, jig size, or any type of bait
quickly. If it breaks off all I gotta do during the trip is pull out another rig and snap it on or at worst tie on another snap
first. Just an idea and I may scrap the idea when I put it to the test. I agree with those fishing #2-1/0 hooks and
usually always fish 1/2 - 1 oz of lead. I like the bullet style for less drag.
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Shine I tie mine still with 3 way at top and 1 below weight. I put a cross lock snap on main line to 3 way then 1 on each dropper. Sure makes it a lot easier to change out hooks or baits and if I break a part off just unsnapped rig and snap on another. Retie rig when I get home.

Happy birthday!!!

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