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I'm making the transition from using live bait to artificial lures. My reel is spooled up with moss green braid line. Will the braid line deter the fish from going after my lures? Should I attach a fluorocarbon leader so my line is not so visible in the water? If so, what size leader should I use? The braid is 20lb test (6lb mono equivalent).
As stained as the water is typically in Louisiana i doubt it would make a difference. At least all the areas I fished growing up there. Could always try buying a small spool of Berkley vanish in 4lb and trying it to see. And welcome from Florida.
Thanks for the welcoming!
Most of the places I fish are stained to dirty as well. I'll give a leader a try. What length do you recommend?
Love your signature, by the way.
Shouldn't need more than 2' and that leaves ya some room for reties as well.
Will do. Thanks for your help. :)
Are you talking about bream fishing? Or other species?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Brim Reaper
If it's bream fishing, do you really need 20# braid?
I think clear is better.............other's think HI Vis Yellow is better......On a good bite it might not matter ..........but when its tough stealth is better in my IMO.........just saying:biggrin
I'm targeting sunfish, crappie, and bass. I also fish very heavy cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
I may try some Hi Vis Yellow in the future, so even if I attach a leader I can still see my line clearly. :biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by BULLFROG-1
I use Berkley Trilene 4 LB and my fishing partner uses gold Stren 4 Lb. We both catch equal amount of pan fish in clear water lakes.
<IMHO> I don't It really makes a big difference to the fish. I believe we think the fish are smarter than they really are; after all their brain is about the size of a pea.
I agree with Bob/MN :ThumbsUp (+/-)
Fish don't have brains that reason ... they just act on instinct & habit. As long as the conditions dictate that there's no "danger" in the immediate area, fish don't recognize fishing line as a threat ... even if it's highly visible to them. I'd concentrate more on making my approach & presentation more "stealthy", and worry less about line color (unless needed for you to see the bite).
And, consider this ... if you've been using the 20/6 green braid, live bait fishing, and catching fish --- why would that make a difference when switching to artificials ?? My experience has been that fish are usually more interested in what's on the end of your line, than what color the line is !! :Rofl
I've caught those same species of fish, that you mentioned, on lines that were - black, multi-colored, clear, fluorescent, (several shades of) green, and also red, yellow, gold, chartreuse, grey, and even a light "bronze" (photochromic) ... in lightly stained to murky waters. I don't use a leader, unless the rigging requires it, as it simply adds another potential problem area or failure point (the knot).
... cp :cool:
I must have smart bream in one of the lakes i fish cause its got clear water and a bright cork will spook em ,so i use old real corks if im not tight lining and smaller diameter line often out fish's large diameter line.:popcorn
Breram fishing , I spool the entire reel with #4 line. I use a slip float or waggler float and split shot. I tie on a small barrel swivel to prevent line twist then use a #10 circle hook and wax worms. You will catch all the bream you care to eat. Another option would be to tie on a 1/64 jig and tip with a waxie. This is a nice thread link http://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-...beginners.html that shows beginners what other jig /rig options people are using.
My father and I were set up this way - me with 4lb gold Stren and him with 4lb clear. We usually caught about the same, but there was one afternoon when he was catching bream steadily while I was striking out. He gave me 4ft of his line and I made a leader and started catching fish. Never went back to gold after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob/MN
I think it rarely matters, but does under certain circumstances.
For many a years i fished constantly at night for white perch.I would use every rod and reel i had often ,,and the reels set up for bass had larger line than my panfish rigs.I noticed especially on the slow nites the ones with smaller diameter line would catch "more" or do all the catching....There is alot to be said for stealth.:popcorn
Chris O'Neill, PENN Field Tester & Owner of Tail Chaser Charter Services sent this photo to Penn of his impressive arsenal of Spinfisher Vs reels...U will notice that the ratio of clear line vs Colored is 5 to 1 favoring the clear line.Attachment 99535
Thanks for all the responses, everyone. What I'm gonna do is borrow a rod from my Dad (I only have one so far) and try both methods. One rod with a leader and the other without.
It depends. On one outing in very clear water, 2 vs. 4 lb. test clear mono made all the difference, and I had one occasion when gills were all over lures on clear 4 lb. mono but wouldn't touch the same lures on 2 lb. gold Stren. I've also had a few bluegills hit pike spoons on wire leaders.
I've seen fishing slow and a clear line seemed to help IMO.
Pappy, remember when we were kids and you could by line in black or white and once in a great while you might find some in green and it all looked like well rope. We still caught fish. I guess them old timeQuote:
Originally Posted by crappiepappy
fish were dumber than these modern fish.:Rofl still remember when my uncle gave me some of the new cat gut line. Didn't think that stuff would ever take off.
Yep, Cray ... I sure do remember that stuff. I think the first fishing line I remember was a "camo" (multi-colored) nylon line that my Dad had on a reel. After that, I remember the black nylon line of my Grandfather's reels being replaced with 8lb test mono. I even remember the first 10lb test mono that I ever saw ... because it was PINK :Rofl My Uncle had it on a reel, and I remember us joking about the color.Quote:
Originally Posted by cray
Back in those days, the only "leader" I remember was the snelled hooks. We didn't use them much, as they were an added expense ... and we tied hooks directly onto the main line. I do remember the plastic "leader holder" gizmo, that you could put those snelled hook rigs on ... and I've probably still got one, hiding in my tackle closet somewhere.
... cp :kewl
:Rofl yes, I remember that pink line and the camo. Had 2 uncles that fished. With bait casters and used the camo. That first pink line was almost as stiff as wire. I got one of those leader holders in a box of stuff up over the garage. Like you we couldn't afford things like smelled hooks. Lucky to have a good cane pole grandpa made and some hooks. Sained minnows, dug worms, picked catalpa worms, caught grasshoppers with a little net mom made me but oh what fun we had back then. Long as I was with my grandad and fishing I was nearly to heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappiepappy
from my experience i use braided line on all my rods and don't have leaders of mono line.i do have leaders of heavier 40 pound braid just to protect against teeth of chain pickerels which are in most places i fish in nj.the fish i catch don't seem to be bothered with what the line looks like,but instead pay attention to the lure.i've caught bluegills,pumpkinseeds,shellcracker,crappies,bass, pickerel,yellow perch,white perch,snapper blues,small stripers,herrings,croaker spots,warmouths all on braided line.even in clear waters but mostly stained