DID ANY OF YOU THAT FISHED ENID THIS YR . CATCH ANY ? THESE HAVE THE SMALL BLACK PINSTRIPE FROM MOUTH- TAIL . THEY WERE STOCKED TO REDUCE THE PRESSURE ON THE WHITE CRAPPIE . I FISH THERE QUITE OFTEN AND HAVE NOT SEEN ONE .:dono
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DID ANY OF YOU THAT FISHED ENID THIS YR . CATCH ANY ? THESE HAVE THE SMALL BLACK PINSTRIPE FROM MOUTH- TAIL . THEY WERE STOCKED TO REDUCE THE PRESSURE ON THE WHITE CRAPPIE . I FISH THERE QUITE OFTEN AND HAVE NOT SEEN ONE .:dono
I caught a nice one on Sardis last fall--bad pick but it was neat--the black line ran from the top of the head to the bottom of the chin
I have caught several of the crappie you mentioned. Caught my first one at Grenada over 20 years ago. I have asked a couple of fisheries pros and some crappie fishermen that have a lot more time on the water than myself and they all have pretty much the same answer. It is a genetic trait that only occurs in black crappie. I have heard them called river-line & river-nose crappie & while they are rare they are not all that uncommon. I have caught them in Sardis, Enid & Grenada with them being more common in Sardis. Pretty cool to look at but still just a black crappie.
These are the hybrids he is talking about
I know they developed a triploid crappie that have a very low reproduction rate. I was told that they were developing this crappie for stocking in smaller lakes to avoid over population. I tried to get some myself but they are not available to the general public. I am assuming that is the crappie you are talking about, but I didn't know they had stocked any in the COE lakes. I can't see any true advantage to stocking this fish in a big lake. I do know for a fact that the crappie that occurs naturally. like the one kdavid caught, is not a hybrid and occurs naturally. When the MDWFP biologist created this hybrid they crossed a river-line black crappie and a white crappie. The reason they did that is the offspring would carry the dominant trait of the black line and they could distinguish them form the non-hybrid crappie at the fish hatchery.
I caught one last week. But can't remember if I was on Sardis or Enid.
Caught hundreds of them cork and minnow fishing over the last 7-8 yrs... Fiesty lil suckers.. Hard to find one over 12" but thicker than the whites.. Was pretty sure they were black's... Can catch a boatload at Enid or Sardis right now on structure in 9-18'.. Caught some this weekend
It is not a hybrid. It is a black crappie with a genetic trait that gives it a stripe. The hatchery has developed a triploid hybrid for stocking in small ponds and lakes. They used a black with the genetic trait to create the hybrid so it would be more readily identifiable. The ones you catch in the COE's are just plain old black crappie with a stripe. They do not stock COE reservoirs.
Worked as a ranger 10 yrs. At enid and the biologist told us that enid was stocked with a hybrid ( at that time was the only coe lake to have them ) told us of the markings . Never knew what they crossed to develop them . He told us that they released a huge number in enid to lower pressure on white crappie during low water yrs . May have caught one and not noticed but 20,000 was the first batch if memory serves me right .
Here is a good article on the subject...Sterile crappie much better for ponds - Mississippi Sportsman
I have caught a few on the rez with that stripe . And they do seem to fight better . The ones i caught were small .
Feelay you better read this paragraph!
As the hatchery staff continues to refine their procedures, Magnolia crappie are being produced and will be stocked into some state fishing lakes. The MDWFP hatchery does not provide fish for private stocking.
You can look up the hatchery up mdwfp . They have a write up in it . I read it mobth's ago . After i caught my first one .
Had no idea they stocked Enid with em.
COE reservoirs are not considered State fishing lakes.http://www.mdwfp.com/fishing-boating...rn-region.aspx
Been catching them from, diff. lakes all around here for a long time,we call em raceing stripe crappie i have caught them in lakeview,north lake, dacus and midway also horseshoe.
Dont know how they got in there but Feesh and I caught several of them at nader last year in the fall. Maybe birds dropped them in there {eggs on their feet} but we have caught several of them outta nader. Havent fished Enid in several years so I dont know bout it.
iv'e caught them on the tenn-tom they are usually around 9 or 10 inches
Caught 4 this year in Sardis 3 of the 4 were over 12.
You know they just might have crossed on there own . Black and white . Specially in the river . Have caught both out of the same hole before . And these would not be sterile . Just an if . We got critters everyday that are found that ain't never been found before . It could happen .
From Enid.
Called the biologist this morning to find out did they or did they not stock enid with the magnolia crappie . Was told they never put them in at stocking numbers but when they were at the stage of developing . the hatches that did not meet certain criteria were put in enid . the hatchery being right there at the lake and since it was being developed with the black crappie that is present already it was better than throwing them away . So basicly they were adding back black crappie to the fishery .Wish they would stock trace with them .