Deathtrap? Had rope ran over barn tied to a ladder painting this barn and shed for a guy. Man I'm glad to be finished with this one!!!!
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Deathtrap? Had rope ran over barn tied to a ladder painting this barn and shed for a guy. Man I'm glad to be finished with this one!!!!
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35 feet to top of this behemoth.
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I would have rented a boom lift.
Have done the exact same ting on a slick metal roof without the ladder, its amazing how much the rope helps.
X2... Can we say OSHA!Quote:
Originally Posted by feelay
Member, Tri State Crappie Anglers
I'm tellin Minner!!!
If we followed what OSHA or what ever it is wanted us to do then yall couldnt afford us, nuff said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
Egggggggggggzacterrrrrlly. Get so much rules and regs that you cant even afford to load the truck up in the morning and go to work. Much less how much you have to charge the customer for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Couldnt reach all the roof with a boom lift. WOuld still have had to got on part of it on foot. Lift wouldnt reach out far enuf to get to it all?Quote:
Originally Posted by feelay
It sucks for the small contractors, but I'm glad OSHA does what they do... I know their rules saved my life once... At least once.
Member, Tri State Crappie Anglers
I was cooning a beam 180' in the air and a crane Operater swung his boom and smacked me with his headache ball. Knocked me off the beam. If I hadn't been tied off I would of fell 180' as it was I only fell 6'. Which was far enough!
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Do want you got to do to get the job done.....Thats what Grandpa used to tell us Grandkids back in our teens when all the boys worked the farm
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I agree, just not practical on residential stuff. Times are tite now but if all the small contractors were trying to follow all the regs there wouldnt be any work going on. We use our head, ifn we think we may need to tie off we tie off, aint no shame in going home in one piece. I do some tree work from time to time and use a lift every time, ladders and chainsaws dont mix, had a cousin all most get killed about 4 weeks ago trimming a limb with a saw at his house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
Common sense will keep most folks safe and the regs help the others for sure. It is amazing what some folks will do but not on my job.
Barn looks dang good dude!!! You didnt put that red metal on that one on 397 did ya, it looks great.?
I would never get 180 up with anything like this I can assure you, big difference in that and 35 feet up, and also if I had to get 180 up my rate would definately go up tremendously lol. I worked 23 yrs at a brick plant here in town and had a lot dealings with rules and regs and OSHA and I can honestly say that had it not been for all the BS at times that place may still be up and running and I might not have to be doing this type of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
That would be more under the common sense part than the reg part, bet you was puckered up some kinda bad, them folks on the ground would have had to wipe my crap off of em!!!!!!!!:yikesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
Na Rees I bid on it but guess my price was a little to high. That barn was and old dutch barn and theres only 3 or so left around here anywhere. THink govt money came into play on it. Some restoration bill or something paid for about 90 percent of the work done on it.
Its pretty cool but old stuff gets a different price, no telling what you are gonna run into. It does look good tho.
Worse part was it took them forever to get me down!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Member, Tri State Crappie Anglers
OUCH, hanging in a harness or on a belt aint always good. Some of these safety harnesses they are selling to bowhunters have caused some deaths from hanging in em too long and cut off circulation and lot more folks have lost legs due to the circulation thing, least the alive.
i did industrial maintenence for 15 years as welder and we had imsha whole stricter than osha i thought osha was for like furniture factories maby i had both not sure
Just had belts back then... Hurt my back real good...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
And those harnesses are deadly... They say in 5mins you can die... They act like a turnicate... All the blood goes to your legs and can't come back out... No blood to the brain..
Member, Tri State Crappie Anglers
Hope ya pocketed your truck keys. :yikes
I had OSHA once but I prefer my fish fried.
Wannabe...
Only dealings you could of had with OSHA was about a paper cut!...LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Wannabe...
Member, Tri State Crappie Anglers
RoflRofl
Msha is mine safety. This includes gravel pits and underground work. OSHA is anything else. MSHA is normally tougher than OSHA, but neither is leavin the location without some type of fine or violation.
As far as the regs go, they are out there to try and protect employees. They are only a minimum standard and they should always be followed. If I inspect a job site and fall protection is on an as needed basis as you see fit, then you'll never get insurance with our company. The lack of the use of fall protection on residential or commercial or industrial jobs will get ya rated Poor by me every time. I can look over some paperwork violations, but not fall protection.
GDG, I hope you had the Keyes in your pocket. Would've hate to have seen you jerked over the barn.
Minnerman
Crazyanglertackle.com
Slab Bandits Pro Staff
No shortcuts when it comes to safety....
In 28 years I've only been hurt twice. Once my fault and the one I mentioned above...
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If you fall aint no difference between 35ft and 180, still make the same splat when ya hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by GitDaGrease
Please no work related threads. They make me want to take another nap.
your right now that i remember we did a lot of shut down work in the coal mine at ackermanQuote:
Originally Posted by minnerman
Yall can thank the unions for OSHA and MSHA... And for that matter weekends off! Thank goodness for all the above!
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I have a feeling if you owned a company and were the one having to pay for all this you prolly would have a little different outlook on it all. Just saying. Its alot different if its your employer payin for it all and not you havin to foot the bill......Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
I'm not going to get in a peeing match over this but I will say that's the same attitude employers everwhere have... Again thank god for unions... And by the way my grandfather started a union electric shop ran it for 45 years untill my dad took over and he ran it for 25 more. Union the whole time... And as a employee after 28 years I have over 250k in retirement and my insurance is the very best!...
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When I bid a job with the COE or another company I do work for from time to time the price is double simply because of the hoops we have to jump through.
With that said, we dont CUT any corners as far as someones safety but in the same token we dont make the secretary wear a hard hat either. I dont doubt that when the unions were formed and came to be that folks were being asked to do things that werent safe but I dont ask anyone to do anything that I wont do and most days I do more physical work than anyone else there.
No one said anything about a peeing match gator. YOu stated your opinions and I stated mine. So that being said you know what else they also say? Opinions are like?? Everybodys got one.:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
I worked in a closed shop for 36 years. We are union, 14 of them at one time. OSHA and MSHA reps. came into the shop. Police were called and they left. We have our own safety rules. The last book I looked at was close to 1300 pages. Every job spelled out for safety.
Small business is a bit different. Do what you got to do or don't eat. Lawn service for example. When was the last time you saw a member of that team walk the property before starting up mowers and things? I've found metal coat hangers in my yards while walking them before cutting. I will shut a mower down when a car passes. I won't cut while someone is close. How often do you see that?
I'm for unions and the safety they have brought us. But someone has to go beyond that sometimes in their jobs.
That's right! I agree with you on that... And I'll also say that I do understand where your comming from. It would be hard for you to compete if you had to pay all your employee's benefits and some one else didn't... That's why you don't see union contractors doing small jobs.... Too many shady contractors using unskilled labor and illegal aliens.....Quote:
Originally Posted by GitDaGrease
Member, Tri State Crappie Anglers
You got that rite.bangheadQuote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
This opens up a whole nuther can of worms. The so called "illegal aliens" are over here doin werk that our sorry a$$ citizens won't do because they get so much free $#*+ handed out to em that they don't hafta werk. The only reason they are here is to work. Why don't the unions go out and recruit some of our unskilled labor force and put em in one of their apprenticeship programs and get their arses off Wellfare so I don't hafta pay fer em to sit at home and draw a nice big fat check fer the 7 kids they got. Pffffft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator_1
Minnerman
Crazyanglertackle.com
Slab Bandits Pro Staff
It's not the only reason they are here!!! Check out the ratio of illegal's in our prison systemQuote:
Originally Posted by Minnerman