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about the new Arkansas State Record Black Crappie.
While fishing with Carlos yesterday, Jerry Clark from NE Arkansas caught this 18.75-inch hybrid crappie that had a girth of 15-inches and weighed 2-pounds, 6-ounces.
Over the years, we've had several 18 to 18.5-inch crappie with girths in the neighborhood of 13-inches but none of them have been over 2.5-pounds.
I'm still trying to figure out how an 18-inch crappie with a 13-inch girth could weigh 5-pounds.
Cheap scales maybe:dono
this maybe a dumb question...but is a hybrid crappie a cross between black and white crappie?
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Originally Posted by Crappieawlogist
Yes
Your scales might be off a little. I would think any 18.75" fish should weigh a little more than 3 lbs unless it was paper thin.
A lead paint diet.
I think our ditital scale is accurate to within and ounce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slab Junkie
If this fish would have been caught two months ago - before they started spawning - there's no doubt it would have been over 3-pounds. We've had several 3-pound black crappie that were less than 18-inches long but they were all pre-spawn fish.
Crappie can vary considerably in weight and girth for any given length but for any given length and girth there's a limit to what a crappie can weigh.
I've thought the same thing about the record fish. Just doesn't seem right. But supposedly the fish must be weighed on currently certified scales, with a AGFC representative present. Unless the buddy system was employed, not sure how you could cheat it, short of pushing lead weights down it's gullet(which I know has been done during tourney's).
I don't think an AGFC representative is required to be present at the weighing, just a "witness". It could be a simple mistake - sometimes a "2" looks a lot like a "5" especially if you look at it up-side-down. It DOES take an AGFC employee to certify the species and to certify a new record but whoever certified that fish hasn't seen many 2-pound or bigger crappie. It would be difficult to hide well over 2-pounds of lead in a fish that isn't much over 2-pounds. It's interesting that a new state record black crappie shows up about the same time the black crappie shows up on the AG&FC license plate.
The crappie out of the local lake weigh light for their length. Compared to lake Conway fish, it appears that they will weigh at least a 1/2 pound more for the same length fish. An 18.75 is a huge fish and I sure would have thought it would have weighed more than 2.6.
I would love to catch a 18.75" crappie out of Butla.
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Didn't hear about the record. I did read the article in the state paper yesterday about fish records and the issues with them, in general. I believe it said that an AGFC employee had to be present, I could be wrong. That pretty much limits things. I caught ONE 3 lb crappie in my life, and it weighed about 2.9 lbs about 5 hours after being on ice. It was at the Toad Suck one stop grocery, but it was long ago.
Fish weights, and the claims thereof, have always amazed me........folks always seem to think their fish is heavier than it is.
I spent years fishing the Ark river, and the fish out of there seldom looked remotely similar to lake fish. They more closely resembled footballs. I attributed it to being more muscular from having to fight the current and the COE all their life! :) But they would invariably weigh at least a pound more than any lake fish of that length.
What makes me think, is that almost all these 'records' seem to come from what I would call a 'pond'. Isn't the white crappie record from Lake Ola? And the recent bass that was disallowed in NE Ark was from some 87 acre 'lake'. That makes me wonder.....
Yes sir!!! I've caught 3lbers that were only 16" there !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by creekslick
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What makes that a hybrid and not just a regular white crappie?
Hey Jerry
I got one on the wall that was 16.25 inches and weighed 2.6 lbs. She was caught in December and would have definately been heavier a couple of months later.
I cooked up some fillets this past weekend you helped the cousins catch Last month. I sure like it when they go fishing with you. Of course Sandy wants to tell me how to do it now.
DP
We see a huge difference in the weight of pre-spawn and post-spawn fish. We've seen 16-inch black crappie go from an average of around 2-pounds, 4-ounces in mid-February before they start spawnig to an average of around 1-pound, 10-ounces in late April when they've finished spawning. That's loosing nearly one-third of their body weight in two months. Of course the girth (measurement around the fish at the widest point) decreases as the weight decreases but the length doesn't.
AGFC representative must be present at the "official" weighing. I re-read the paper from this Sunday and that's what it claimed. Also, don't forget it had a girth of 13"...that doesn't seem right for a fish that weighs that much.
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Originally Posted by AgriHawg
I stand corrected (after reading this from the 2012 AG&FC Fishing Handbook) - "An employee of the
AGFC or the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service must witness the weigh-in and sign the application or a
separate document confirming the fish’s weight."
Hey Don,Quote:
Originally Posted by DRPEPPER
I hear Sandy is getting pretty good at going out all by herself and bringing home a mess of crappie so don't be askeered to take her advice! :)
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Originally Posted by Gomer Snerd
The two primary indications are that it has 7 dorsal spines (black crappie) as well as vertical bars (white crappie). The vertical bars only come part way up the side and only on the back half but pure black crappie don't have any vertical bars.
I would wager that their girth was in the neighborhood of 16-inches as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine