does any one know where you can get cockroach or wood roach's for fishing? Any place you can order them by mail?
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does any one know where you can get cockroach or wood roach's for fishing? Any place you can order them by mail?
You're kidding right? --- :eek:
Ya, your R KIDDING....RIGHT!!!!!!.....It gives me the willies just thinking about them. I can imagine if you do find some and one gets loose in your house. Then you got a real mess.
But if you really want some. Go to some rank or nasty eating place. They probably have some crawling around.....
Just a wild guess, but try in the meat dept of your local Wally World---:eek:
cockaroach?:eek:
Being as they are a pest & a health hazard ... I doubt you can order them by mail. And they aren't all that good for fishing, either ... too soft, and too many legs for small gills to grab ahold of :D (I used to catch them from around the underground water meter, in front of my Grandparents house) Trust me ... they're not worth the effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappieHead
Stick with the Grubco "critters" selection ... or buy some plastic versions of them (if you can find them). .......... luck2ya .... cp :cool:
Most lumber piles will have quite a few underneath them...but, wow, way too much goo from these nasty things!!
Whatever will work for ya though...good luck using them and let us know!
Years ago, many bait shops carried roaches. They were not the cockroach you normally think of. They were a medium size between the size of a big black cockroach and the smaller german roach. They were greatbream bait but I find that a cricket is hard to beat and easier to deal with.
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They just an insect that we despise. Look in a cricket container at the local bait shop. NASTY. Here is a pic of a trap that I used for years to catch the bugs. Build ur own trap and get bait free...........Just gotta understand where, what and why about the cockroaches. I ain't died yet from handling them...ha
You can't buy this trap anywhere, but you can make one. It is a collectors item now...
Cane pole you sure do have an affection for contraptions. Looking at the age of that colinder it just might make that thing of yours the very first Roach Motel. Dont guess Raid paid you any royalties for the idea Ha.
I cant belive this thread as I used to know of an old man in Hot Springs that used them for bait and he caught stringers of crappie every day. When I tell people that they look at me like I am crazy. He used the big long black wood cockroach I see everywhere in the summer. I was a little guy and dont remember how he caught them or kept them to use, but still remember him comming in our store with a cooler of fish every day.They seem to like wood piles and love dog food. Just wish I could get over the heebie jeebi thing or I would give em a try.
If you are looking to start a breeding colony of roaches, Roachman is the guy to talk to http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Roaches/Roachman.html. This guy has numerous species available if you are looking to start a colony. I have been breeding a Blaberus spp. that I obtained from a university colony for years now, but I feed them to my lizards, never tried them on a hook. I would think one of the softer, smaller roach species would probably work better for bait. Roaches are pretty easy to breed and don't require much maintenance compared to crickets. You just have to be careful since most species can crawl on glass and lots of them can fly and get out of the container :)
Also, if you want to try to catch them, a good way is to use a pitfall trap. There are many ways to make a pitfall trap, but all of them involve burying a cup of some sort and waiting for insect to fall in and become trapped. You can google pitfall trap and find a bunch of different ways to do this. My favorite is to take a 2-liter soda bottle, cut the top off a short ways after if curves, then invert the top into the bottom such that the cut ends are aligned. Dig a hole then bury the trap so that the edge of the trap is even with ground. You can put bait in it before you set out the trap to increase your chances of catching roaches. I always heard that stale beer makes a good roach attractant but have never tried it. If you try using a pitfall, chances are you will come up with much more than just roaches, but hey, thats just more bugs to try out when you go fishing. Good luck.
I Love fishing................. BUT you have to draw the line somewhere! I ain't using no roaches and I ain't using no leaches. Kinda iffy on the maggots. And I reserve the right to keep you outta my boat if you are carrying any of the above!
Everything else is fair bait:p
john
thats ok I have my own boat no need to fish in yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by bowdenja
Way back when we couldn't afford to go to bait stores we caught our on bait. Since we used wood stoves we always had stacks of wood. We would catch a bunch of the wood roaches in the wood stack. We caught a ton of fish on the wood roaches.
Have no clue who sales them, but they do make great bait.
Bowdenja I agree with ya buddy, I aint got no room for them either, last thing I need is a colony of roaches in my boat lol :D
Thanks Cmac! Them BIG roaches give me the heebeegeebees! Dang thangs can fly too, that ain't natural!
I just tried some of GRUBCO's big mealworms............ Dude! Those thing swork great. Good company to deal with too!
Y'all keep yur roaches, heck you got my permission to come down here and take every last one of 'em back with ya!:D
john
Y'al be safe this here Holiday Weekend!:D
Maybe you could find a supplier that makes artificial roaches or create your own mold and make you some.
thanks but no thanks
I still stand by my last post.................... this 6 foot 240 pound guy WILL hurt somebody over these things............. I rather un-hook an alligator that done snapped up my buzz bait, that stick my hand in something and come back with one of them big nasty roaches! I just shuddered!
Oh and I already had to un-hook three so far this year!:D We just got a whole bunch of them things round here now.
Looks Like An Old Strainer To Me, U Could Probaly Make One From That If You Wanted. Use What Catches Fish!!
Now i can't get this image out of my head of you gettin chased around a boat with a great big ole roach:D It's them big hairy spiders (and them little ones too) that gives me the shakes :eek: and i'm bigger than you...izzyQuote:
Originally Posted by bowdenja
I can't believe some of u guys fear (hate) cockroaches. They just one of God's little creatures. You guys suffer from entomophobia. You all need some cognitive bug therapy. I knows a good bug man....haha
I'm only slightly skiddish :eek: around them 8 legged ones CP. I know a good (bugman) too. He fishes LOZ alot and is a member here:D...izzyQuote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
if I can catch more fish using cockroaches then I will use them. Looking for some to try.
Hey Izzy............. got traumatized as a kid in Chicago(Great Lakes). One of them things big enough to saddle and ride on was crawling on the basement ceiling at out "new" base house. I was OK till that son-of-a-gun TOOK OFF flying in my direction. Ain't been the same since as far as they are concerned.
Spiders ain't no big for me.........squash em and go on. But I had a Buddy one time who used to go with me snake hunting at night. He'd tote the light, me with my trusty single six. Got pretty good at hitt'n them snakes in the head, and the occasional frog too! Mitchell........ was not afraid of ANY kind of snake, man I saw him pick up with his bare hands and not stick to hold their heads down, rattlers, copperheads, true cotton-mouths....... it didn't matter if it was coiled up, mad or spitting.
But he COULD NOT STAND spiders.
One night we was going to one of the local ponds were we did our snake shooting and he was cutting a new trail and hit a spider web that covered his face........... man I heard the most highest pitch scream I ever heard and next thing I know the light is out and IT'S DARK AS PITCH......... Mitchell is the one sounding like a little girl and he's getting farther and farther away and the light is bobbing up and down at a very high rate.
I would have laughed my *SS off but it was very dark, and I didn't have a spare light. From then on I always had a flashlight in MY pocket. Man he didn't even stop at the car.
He was the only guy I ever saw that would try and cut off his arm if a spider landed on it. Guess I'm kinda that way with them God forsaken roaches.
I can find SOMETHING to catch fish with.......... and it won't be no roach!:D
Stop it your killing me hehe. I can relate, i grew up in N St. Louis and everybody had roaches not the flying ones though. I guess we got used to them. Mom used to clean and spray that Camicide daily, to no avail. I was'nt scared of spiders till about 20 years ago. My niece got bit on the inner thigh by a Brown Recluse. They literally cut a hole half the size of a baseball before it quit rotting the flesh, it was awfull looking. She had numerous skin graffs and it does'nt look to bad now. To this day i'll leave my boots if one gets on me. Hey Duane, i bet bugman could tell ya how to get some roaches, he's an exterminator buy trade...izzy
I do not want DEAD roachesQuote:
Originally Posted by izzysfishin
Izzy......... we got them dang Brown Recluses down here and I don't care for them either. Sorry about your niece, those buggers do some damage before it finally stops. Saw a dude that got bit on the finger and it was NOT a pretty site. Them and those dang Black Widow ones are the ones you got to worry about.......... but thats why every spider I see is one of the other and I'm a squashing it!
My daughter and wife went to CA for a trip one summer. When they came back they had a passenger that was un-invited. My buddy who teaches Biology told me it was a Wolf Spider. Look it up on the net. That sucker was the size of a Krispy Cream donut. My daughter walked in on it in her room and the dang thing raised up on it's back leggs and looked like it was going to attack. Needless to say she now feels the same way you do, that was after she got back home from the very sudden 24K run she went on.:D All we heard as she left on her run was "Big Spider...Big Spider...BIG SPIDER!"
Crappiehead....... the only good roach IS a dead roach:D Man go buy some crickets.
Too Damn Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like a flour sieve with a metal pipe fastened to it. Simple enough to make. Maybe that's an oil pan mesh filter from an old Pontiac. I've got a minnow trap, so I might put some food scraps in it and see if that works. I'd plug up one of the holes and put something bristlely (is that a word?) at the entrance on the other end to keep the roaches trapped. They are smarter than they look, you know.
If I have trouble getting a roach to stay on a hook, I can make doughballs with it. Grind up a cup of roaches in a very old blender with no more water than necessary to make it a cold liquid. Then add this raw liquid nastiness to a 50/50 mix of self-rising flour and cornmeal. Add just enough water to make it bind good into a stiff dough. Make acorn sized balls (1/4") out of the dough because they will swell up to twice the raw dough size when cooking. Drop the dough balls into hard boiling clean water and let them swell as they cook, flip over on their own like bagels, cook some more. Then drain the roach dough balls on paper towels and let them cool. It's okay if some paper towel sticks to the balls. Kind of helps them stay together. Chill and keep chilled till I am ready to use them. That's my recipe for making a very basic catfish doughball con carne. Some people sprinkle a little salt on their doughballs, but I don't. Wouldn't salt have a tenderizer effect on the doughball and cause it to disintergrate faster?
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source: http://archive.salon.com/books/revie...eid/index.htmlQuote:
Roaches have been found to carry polio, hepatitis, salmonella, streptococcus, shigella, hookworms, tapeworms, dysentery-causing amoebi, leprosy and bubonic plague. Even a squeaky-clean cockroach can make you sick (or kill you) if you happen to be allergic: Roaches are the prime culprits in the inner-city asthma epidemic that takes the lives of hundreds of children each year.
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Roaches have been found to carry polio, hepatitis, salmonella, streptococcus, shigella, hookworms, tapeworms, dysentery-causing amoebi, leprosy and bubonic plague. Even a squeaky-clean cockroach can make you sick (or kill you) if you happen to be allergic: Roaches are the prime culprits in the inner-city asthma epidemic that takes the lives of hundreds of children each year."
Although I wouldn't touch the filthy things today, we fished with them when I was growing up. Bream would go crazy attacking them. We never used crickets unless we ran out of roaches. We also had a bait shop in our garage that funded my college education. What was really interesting was that we sold crickets, worms and black roaches. The crickets brought $1 per hundred and the roaches sold for $1.50 per hundred. We couldn't catch enough roaches to satisfy the demand. I can't count the times we set out our roach traps at night and picked them up before dawn in an old alley beside a football stadium. We would sometimes catch 2000 - 3000 and sell all of them within a few days. I'm 58 years old and really healthy (as far as I know) so maybe those black roaches that hung around those garbage cans were healthier than the cockroaches.:confused:
Hint for anyone catching their own these days: put a slice of white bread in the bottom of the roach traps (ours looked exactly like the ones someone posted on this board) and soak the bread with beer. :eek: The beer soaked bread would catch twice as many or more than the traps with the non-alcoholic bread.
Dan
As a kid, I'd go with my dad and uncle to the river at night. Where the barges tie up to the docks. Lay several slices of bread close to the edge, pour a little beer on each and wait. 1 or 2 roaches would visite then leave. After awhile you couldn't see the slices for them. Rack bread and all into a bucket and return the slice to the dock. It would average an hour for about 200 roaches to be in the bucket. Cover the bucket, some are able to fly.
Dad had a block of wood with a short broom handle attacked to it, about 10 inches long. place it in the bucket, the roaches will climb the stick for higher ground. Pick off the one you want.
We fished Horn Lake, Lakeview as some call it. Mostly for bream. We'd carry worms, crickets and roaches. Roaches always produced the largest bream and a few crappie.
Go to any saw mill and get as many as u want, I put them in a cricket cage, Hey guys they work good on Bluegill and cheaper and easier to handle than crickets
has anyone collected the larve from the june bugs, beatles or the japanese beatles for fishing???
When turning the soil in the garden I often find the grubs, or you can often find them just under the sod in your lawn. Just look for the brown spots where the grubs are feeding on the grassroots.
A long time ago (mid 1950's) I tried fishing for trout with the grubs, but did not get any bites.
flycaster
location central North Carolina